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  • santiagorevale
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    Sorry if the same post appears many times. I'm having issues with the browser and am not getting feedback after posting. If all the postings appears, just keep the last one. Thanks!

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  • santiagorevale
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    Hi Brian,

    I have a couple of questions about this script:

    1) does it work by default for patterned flowcells, like the ones for a HiSeq 4000? Or do I need to run it with some specific options, like "xsize" or "ysize"?

    2) if I only have access to one lane instead of the whole flowcell, would it also be the way to go to create the "dump" file with the samples in it, and then use this profile to process sample by sample?

    I have a special case where Read 1 and Read 2 have different behaviours as well as length patterns (R1=26bp; R2=75bp). In one lane, I already know that the whole TOP surface for R2 (only) failed, having those reads looking like this:

    Code:
    @K00150:243:HLG7MBBXX:6:1101:26129:1297 2:N:0:NCGCAGAA
    NNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNN
    +
    ###########################################################################
    So, out of the 10 Mi reads, half of them looks like this, hence should be discarded. However, I tried running "filterbytile" in five different ways but I'm not getting it to filter out this data. Here is what I've done:

    a. Without "dump", using only Read 2, with aggresive filtering

    Code:
    filterbytile.sh in=Sample1.R2.fastq.gz out=filtered.Sample1.R2.fq.gz ud=0.75 qd=1 ed=1 ua=.5 qa=.5 ea=.5
    Code:
    Flagged 3358 of 6903 micro-tiles, containing 4747957 reads:
    3346 exceeded uniqueness thresholds.
    0 exceeded quality thresholds.
    0 exceeded error-free probability thresholds.
    81 had too few reads to calculate statistics.
    
    Reads Discarded:           0 	0.000%
    Bases Discarded:           0 	0.000%
    b. Without "dump", using only Read 2

    Code:
    filterbytile.sh in=Sample1.R2.fastq.gz out=filtered.Sample1.R2.fq.gz
    Code:
    Flagged 345 of 6903 micro-tiles, containing 144925 reads:
    326 exceeded uniqueness thresholds.
    0 exceeded quality thresholds.
    0 exceeded error-free probability thresholds.
    81 had too few reads to calculate statistics.
    
    Reads Discarded:           0 	0.000%
    Bases Discarded:           0 	0.000%
    c. Without "dump", using both pairs

    Code:
    filterbytile.sh in1=Sample1.R1.fastq.gz in2=Sample1.R2.fastq.gz out1=filtered.Sample1.R1.fq.gz out2=filtered.Sample1.R2.fq.gz
    Code:
    Flagged 878 of 12803 micro-tiles, containing 119766 reads:
    0 exceeded uniqueness thresholds.
    547 exceeded quality thresholds.
    856 exceeded error-free probability thresholds.
    95 had too few reads to calculate statistics.
    
    Reads Discarded:        119k 	0.612%
    Bases Discarded:       6043k 	0.612%
    d. With "dump" for the whole lane, using only Read 2

    Code:
    filterbytile.sh in=all.R2.fq.gz dump=dump.lane.R2
    filterbytile.sh in=Sample1.R2.fastq.gz out=filtered.Sample1.R2.fq.gz indump=dump.lane.R2
    Code:
    Flagged 11949 of 350360 micro-tiles, containing 7514071 reads:
    11612 exceeded uniqueness thresholds.
    0 exceeded quality thresholds.
    0 exceeded error-free probability thresholds.
    882 had too few reads to calculate statistics.
    
    Reads Discarded:           0 	0.000%
    Bases Discarded:           0 	0.000%
    e. With "dump" for the whole lane, using both pairs

    Code:
    filterbytile.sh in1=all.R1.fq.gz in2=all.R2.fq.gz dump=dump.lane
    filterbytile.sh in1=Sample1.R1.fastq.gz in2=Sample1.R2.fastq.gz out1=filtered.Sample1.R1.fq.gz out2=filtered.Sample1.R2.fq.gz indump=dump.lane
    Code:
    Flagged 16907 of 691597 micro-tiles, containing 5698570 reads:
    0 exceeded uniqueness thresholds.
    10436 exceeded quality thresholds.
    16794 exceeded error-free probability thresholds.
    1192 had too few reads to calculate statistics.
    
    Reads Discarded:        173k 	0.886%
    Bases Discarded:       8742k 	0.886%

    Maybe this is not an issue addressed by the script? Are you considering both surfaces as part of the same tile? Or are you treating them differently?

    Alternatively, I've tried filtering the data by quality using "bbduk", but from the two set ups, only one of them work and I'm wondering if that might be a bug?

    i. Filtering using "maq" only on Read 2 [didn't work, weird behavior]

    Code:
    bbduk.sh qtrim=f maq=10 in=Sample1.R2.fq out=filtered.Sample1.R2.fq
    Code:
    Input:                  	9773111 reads 		732983325 bases.
    Low quality discards:   	0 reads (0.00%) 	0 bases (0.00%)
    Total Removed:          	0 reads (0.00%) 	0 bases (0.00%)
    Result:                 	9773111 reads (100.00%) 	732983325 bases (100.00%)
    First I thought the filtering was not active because in the documentation says it's applied "after" trimming. However, if I specified a big "maq" number, like 30, it is doing something:

    Code:
    Input:                  	9773111 reads 		732983325 bases.
    Low quality discards:   	2428888 reads (24.85%) 	182166600 bases (24.85%)
    Total Removed:          	2428888 reads (24.85%) 	182166600 bases (24.85%)
    Result:                 	7344223 reads (75.15%) 	550816725 bases (75.15%)
    Is this a bug, then? Could this option be applied when no trimming is defined? That is sometimes a way to go, specially when using alignment software capable of soft-masking ends.

    ii. Filtering using "maxns" only on Read 2 [worked as a charm]

    Code:
    bbduk.sh qtrim=f maxns=10 in=Sample1.R2.fq out=filtered.Sample1.R2.fq
    Code:
    Input:                  	9773111 reads 		732983325 bases.
    Low quality discards:   	5013913 reads (51.30%) 	376043475 bases (51.30%)
    Total Removed:          	5013913 reads (51.30%) 	376043475 bases (51.30%)
    Result:                 	4759198 reads (48.70%) 	356939850 bases (48.70%)

    This is the behaviour I am expecting for both "filterbytile" and "bbduk maq=10".

    Please, let me know if I'm doing something wrong or if it's not how you intended it to be.

    Thank you very much in advance, and very sorry for the lengthy post.

    Cheers,
    Santiago

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  • Brian Bushnell
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    Thanks! Yes, FilterByTile processes lanes independently, so you can use them all at once.

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  • mcmc
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    Thanks. This was HiSeq 2500 2x250 RapidRun (with both lanes concatenated, which I assume is ok, since you refer to "flowcell" and not "lane"). I used the entire dataset (15 metagenomes) to calc the stats, then used dump.flowcell to filter each sample. Here is one example:

    Code:
    Flagged 36407 of 519552 micro-tiles, containing 50578608 reads:
    0 exceeded uniqueness thresholds.
    30332 exceeded quality thresholds.
    34084 exceeded error-free probability thresholds.
    0 had too few reads to calculate statistics.
    
    Filtering reads:        988.159 seconds.
    
    Time:                           988.671 seconds.
    
    Reads Processed:      56900k    57.55k reads/sec
    Bases Processed:      14225m    14.39m bases/sec
    
    Reads Discarded:       3094k    5.438%
    Bases Discarded:        773m    5.438%
    I used "lowqualityonly=t usekmers=f"
    Last edited by mcmc; 02-11-2017, 05:01 PM.

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  • Brian Bushnell
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    Yeah, sorry about that, it's a known bug when you are using already-created flowcell files. If you do everything in a single pass it won't print that. Do you mind posting the filtering statistics, platform, and read length, just out of curiosity? The defaults generally remove around 2-5% of the reads in my testing, but I've only tested it on HiSeq 2500 and NextSeq data.

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  • mcmc
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    Hello Brian,
    I get the message "Warning: Zero reads processed." using indump=dump.flowcell. But it looks like making the dump file worked ok (it says it processed 780m reads). Is it safe to ignore this warning?

    Thanks,
    mcmc

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  • Brian Bushnell
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    Hi MC,

    FilterByTile should be run on raw data, before anything else that changes or removes any reads. If you do any quality-related filtering or trimming steps before FilterByTile, you will remove some of the lowest-quality reads, which will disrupt the statistics.

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  • mcmc
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    Brian et al., would you recommend filterbytile.sh be done first, before adapter trimming & quality filtering?
    Thanks,
    MC

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  • Brian Bushnell
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    OK, the new version of Clumpify is out, adding the "dedupe" and "optical" flags (as well as a few other related flags), so you can do optical or full deduplication. Also related to FilterByTile, BBDuk now has xmin, ymin, xmax, and ymax flags for large-scale location-based read filtering; essentially, you can eliminate tile-edge effects using a bounding box. For our NextSeq I was able to eliminate tile-edge duplicates with "xmin=1600 xmax=26300". There did not seem to be any on the Y edges. But, the exact values may vary by machine or run.
    Last edited by Brian Bushnell; 01-04-2017, 03:11 PM.

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  • Brian Bushnell
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    Hi Genomax,

    There were plenty of identical pairs. Everything is scaled to 100% in that graph, but here is the raw data:

    Code:
    	A	B	C	D	DBM
    0	3868	3868	3868	3868	3870
    1	6260	6316	6402	6454	6470
    2	6534	6562	6720	6728	6746
    3	6590	6628	6794	6806	6826
    4	6622	6662	6832	6840	6858
    5	6652	6690	6864	6874	6888
    56% of the optical duplicates are perfectly identical, and those were found without problems. Only the reads with mismatches to each other pose challenges, but most of those were still found as well. I still consider them optical duplicates even though they are not technically identical. I've been kind of struggling with the definition of "optical duplicates", but I will use this:

    Code:
    Reads originating from the same fragment, called multiple times despite originating from nearly the same physical flowcell location.
    Since they reads are called multiple times, they can have different errors despite being the same physical cluster.
    Last edited by Brian Bushnell; 12-29-2016, 03:48 PM.

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  • GenoMax
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    Am I reading the graph above correctly in that you were not able to find true optical dups (perfect matches on the read) in data you tested? These should be present in problematic HiSeq 3K, 4K data.

    You may also want to grab some HiSeq 4000 (or HiSeq X) data from SRA to test since we expect this to be a problem there.

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  • Brian Bushnell
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    I decided it would work best to add deduplication features to Clumpify. All approaches work perfectly for error-free reads, but Clumpify is affected slightly more by errors than mapping-based approaches, for situations when it is desirable to remove "duplicates" with mismatches. Here's a comparison showing Clumpify's paired read deduplication compared to DedupeByMapping on some real HiSeq data, allow reads with various number of mismatches to the reference (DedupeByMapping is considered the gold standard in each case, though that does not necessarily mean it is more correct). Clumpify is run with different settings (C and D have higher removal rates because they use 3 passes; A is at default settings).



    I also added in the ability to restrict duplicate removal to only clusters within a specific number pixels of each other on the flowcell, to avoid removal of PCR duplicates or coincidental duplicates due to high coverage. In so doing I noticed some interesting things... firstly, that most optical duplicates are on different tiles (inter-tile duplicates) rather than the same tile, and secondly, that in the data I tested, NextSeq has a WAY higher optical duplicate rate (~1%) than HiSeq 2500/1T (0.05%). The way you can distinguish between an inter-tile optical duplicate and a PCR duplicate is that inter-tile optical duplicates will share an X or Y coordinate (within some number of pixels, typically under 40). Intra-tile optical duplicates will of course share both coordinates as well as the tile number.

    I'll release this once I'm done testing.
    Attached Files

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  • SNPsaurus
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    GenoMax, my first thought was also that an optical dup filter was needed! I would love to remove optical duplicates as a first step in a pipeline (before mapping). Seems like between clumpify and this filterbytile he almost has it written already. (Sorry Brian, I'm sure it is annoying for us to besiege you with requests and then add how it should be easy to do.)

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  • GenoMax
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    If you can look in the positional neighborhood for clusters having identical sequence then those would be it.

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  • Brian Bushnell
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    Originally posted by GenoMax View Post
    @Brian: Can this be easily extended to provide "MarkDuplicates" functionality? Currently only Picard tools does this.

    I am referring to optical duplicates that form due to "pad hopping" in case of patterned HiSeq 4000 flowcells. Since you are using smaller rectangular tiles to look at reads in the neighborhood would it be possible to identify clusters that may be optical dups and mark them?
    It sounds like it might (or could) be a straightforward extension, yes. Could require writing temp files if all reads don't fit into memory, though. I'd have to study the optical duplicate problem in detail first because I don't currently know how to identify them confidently.

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