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  • ashuchawla
    Member
    • Jan 2012
    • 38

    #1

    trouble understanding the in-del

    I have trouble understanding the following IN-DEL. I am not a Bioilogy person, more towards the informatics side of Bioinformatics and will highly appreciate if any one can explain to me where is the insertion/deletion in the following piece of code I picked up from NCBI-SNP database.



    >gnl|dbSNP|rs157738182 rs=157738182|pos=256|len=511|taxid=1773|mol="genomic"|class=in-del|alleles="-/ACCGCCGAGCAGACCGCCATCCGCGAG"|build=135
    GCCGAGAATC ACATGGACGC CCAACCGGCC GGCGACGCCA CCCCGACCCC GGCAACGGCG AAGCGGTCCC GGTCCCGCTC
    ACCTCGTCGC GGGTCGACTC GGATGCGCAC CGTGCACGAA ACATCGGCTG GAGGGTTGGT CATTGACGGT ATCGACGGTC
    CACGAGACGC GCAGGTCGCG GCTCTGATCG GCCGCGTCGA CCGGCGCGGC CGGCTGCTGT GGTCGCTACC CAAGGGGCAC
    ATCGAGTTGG GCGAG
    N
    GTCGCCGAGG AGACCGGCAT CCGCGGCAGT GTGCTCGCCG CGCTGGGGCG CATCGACTAC TGGTTCGTCA CCGACGGCCG
    GCGGGTGCAC AAGACCGTCC ACCATTATTT GATGCGGTTT TTAGGCGGAG AGCTGTCCGA CGAAGACCTC GAGGTAGCCG
    AGGTAGCCTG GGTGCCGATC CGGGAACTGC CGTCTCGACT GGCCTACGCC GACGAACGTC GACTAGCCGA GGTGGCCGAC
    GAACTGATCG ACAAG
  • westerman
    Rick Westerman
    • Jun 2008
    • 1104

    #2
    I am not familiar with dbSNP but looking at the manual it clearly explains the fasta line.

    ftp://ftp.ncbi.nih.gov/snp/00readme.txt

    Basically the indel is at the N. The allele shows the non-insert sequence (-) on the left side of the slash and the insert sequence (ACC...GAG) on the other side.

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    • ashuchawla
      Member
      • Jan 2012
      • 38

      #3
      So I looked up the link you posted and I have below mentioned confusions:-
      1. What do you mean by insert and non-insert sequences?
      2. the link you posted shows the following format-
      >gnl|dbSNP|rs271 rs=271|pos=51|len=101|taxid=9606|mol="Genomic"|class=1|alleles="G/A"|source="dbSNP"
      5' sequence: CTGCATCACATGTACTGATTCTGTCCATTGGAACAGAGATGATGACTGGT
      variation: R
      3' sequence: TTACTAAACCCTGAGCCCTGGTGTTTCTGTTGATAGGGGGTTGCATTGAT

      I am confused about the 5' and 3' sequence notations too. As far as I understand 'C' bonds with 'G' and 'A' with 'T' on complementary strands which is not the case here, then how are they in opposite directions?

      Originally posted by westerman View Post
      I am not familiar with dbSNP but looking at the manual it clearly explains the fasta line.

      ftp://ftp.ncbi.nih.gov/snp/00readme.txt

      Basically the indel is at the N. The allele shows the non-insert sequence (-) on the left side of the slash and the insert sequence (ACC...GAG) on the other side.

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      • westerman
        Rick Westerman
        • Jun 2008
        • 1104

        #4
        1) One of your alleles does not have an insert. The other does. That is the definition on an indel.

        2) The 5' and 3' sequences refer to the flanking sequences. Not the complimentary strands. In the case with the allele="G/A" [not your original sequence] but the one you referred to in message #3 then the two alleles will be 101 bases long and will look like:

        #1) CTGCA...GGTGTTA...GAT
        #2) CTCGA...GGTATTA...GAT

        3) In your original sequence the alleles will look like

        #1) GCCGA...CGAGGTCG...CAAG
        #2) GCCGA...CGAGACCGCCGAGCAGACCGCCATCCGCGAGGTCG...CAAG
        Last edited by westerman; 08-07-2012, 11:37 AM. Reason: grammer

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        • ashuchawla
          Member
          • Jan 2012
          • 38

          #5
          Thanks a tonne for your help
          I have Another question though , would you call the FASTA sequences I pasted above a paired end read?


          Originally posted by westerman View Post
          1) One of your alleles does not have an insert. The other does. That is the definition on an indel.

          2) The 5' and 3' sequences refer to the flanking sequences. Not the complimentary strands. In the case with the allele="G/A" [not your original sequence] but the one you referred to in message #3 then the two alleles will be 101 bases long and will look like:

          #1) CTGCA...GGTGTTA...GAT
          #2) CTCGA...GGTATTA...GAT

          3) In your original sequence the alleles will look like

          #1) GCCGA...CGAGGTCG...CAAG
          #2) GCCGA...CGAGACCGCCGAGCAGACCGCCATCCGCGAGGTCG...CAAG

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