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  • Krish_143
    Member
    • Jan 2012
    • 45

    #1

    Estimating the bacterial genome size using Kmer frequency

    Hi,

    How to estimate the bacterial genome size (GC rich) when there was no close reference genome ?

    At first i tried jellyfish and generated the histogram plots (for all the avail kmers) and here the exact peak (what i guess) were identifed and calculated, but i am only getting less than half (too less ) off the genome size when compared to generated assemly produce from soapdenovo2.

    And then i tried kmergenie (for all different kmers) same i am not getting proper estimation..

    * Illumina hiseq : Paired end data : Read length 100bps ;
    * GC perecent : 63 % ; (Read_1)
    * Duplicates in fastq : ->48% (Read_1)
    * Read_1 :10128605 (data from FastQC)


    Any Suggestions could be really greatfull..

    Thank you very much..
    Last edited by Krish_143; 06-05-2013, 02:30 AM.
    Krishna
  • krobison
    Senior Member
    • Nov 2007
    • 734

    #2
    #distinct kmers / 2 should be the genome size with a few important caveats

    1) Including erroneous kmers will inflate the count, so typically would count only those kmers with a count of >=2

    2) Repeat regions will be collapsed

    3) regions that just don't show up will be missed, again underestimating. With high G+C genome, there may be regions simply missing from Illumina or with very low coverage.

    Ray produces the kmer statistics in a way that is easy to parse & generate these estimates.

    Assemblies are often a bit too large due to missed overlaps. If you convert these histograms to genome size estimates, how big a range is covered?

    Even without a reference, the taxonomy of the bug may suggest a range -- though you could well have something outside that range.

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    • Krish_143
      Member
      • Jan 2012
      • 45

      #3
      Hi krobison,

      when i estimted the genome size using kmer information (histogram, kmer Peaks)
      ESti_Gsize: 2.8mb (at Kmer 31)
      Assembled Gsize using SoapDenovo : 5.7mb (Draft)

      I will check with the Ray and very thanks krobison for the quick response.
      Last edited by Krish_143; 06-02-2013, 01:06 AM.
      Krishna

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      • rchikhi
        Member
        • Jan 2013
        • 11

        #4
        I sometimes observe that SOAPdenovo contigs (not scaffolds) tend to assemble more than the genome size. Did you run a Velvet assembly, and if so, what was the assembly size?

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