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  • glacerda
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    Thank you Mark, I will try this new pipeline as soon as it's released!

    About comparing assemblies to a reference genome, I found a great utility in the Mummer package called dnadiff. It is a perl script script and it has many bugs, but they are easy to identify and correct (incorrect number of SNPs and breakpoints).

    For validating without a reference, I think that amosvalidate is the best tool. However, converting assemblies to amos format can lead to loss of information.

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  • mchaisso
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    EULER-SR handles all types of reads, and we're getting a lot of questions about doing this. Right now the process requires a lot of manual intervention, but some time this week I'll create a pipeline for assembling them without too much outside work.

    cheers,
    -mark

    Originally posted by glacerda View Post
    Hi you all!

    I'm trying to build a pipeline for hybrid (454/sanger/solexa) de novo assemblies.

    I thought of:

    velvet: to assemble solexa
    newbler: to assemble 454 (since newbler assembles at the flowgram level, I think it is the most accurate for 454)
    cap3: to assemble sanger + newbler contigs + velvet contigs

    Velvet assembles Streptococcus suis solexa reads well, but it performed poorly (N50 decreases from 5K to 4K) when I included 1.5X sanger reads.

    What do you think is the best approach for de novo hybrid assemblies?
    is there any software (besides Mira) that claims to do true hybrid assemblies?

    Cheers

    glacerda

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  • tjahns
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    For merging assemblies you might want to consider minimus2 from the amos package.

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  • sklages
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    Hi,

    for sanger / 454 hybrid assemblies we are successfully using Celera Assembler (http://wgs-assembler.sourceforge.net).
    For our bacterial genome projects (3-12Mb) it is doing a far better job than phrap does (the "old" phrap).

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  • glacerda
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    Thanks for sharing your experience. I have also tried Phrap to assemble 454 contigs (newbler) + sanger single end reads. I have tried different parameters, changed the quality scores for 454 contigs, broke the 454 contigs into sanger-sized pseudoreads and many other attempts but I couldn't produce a good assembly. Phrap produced chimeric contigs, merged repeats, broke contigs apart and has produced many singletons. Besides that, the sum of contigs sizes was between 10% and 20% greater than the genome size for many attempts.

    The best software we could find to assemble Sanger + 454 is cap3. For this, we used the 454 contigs(newbler) without changing the quality scores and added the sanger reads. We have used -o 100 -p 90 -t 200000 (We have found that it is very important to increase -t if there are many reads, default value results in many singlets that overlap the contigs). Tweaking the gap penalties may be a good idea to use the sanger data to correct homopolymeric regions. The final assembly looks good but it is clearly far from perfect.

    To validate the assembly when I have a reference genome, I agree that N50 is not the only quality metric we have to look at. I have been using nucmer+show-tiling (Mummer package) to build a tiling path of contigs in the reference genome. After taht, look for contigs that aren't 100% aligned to the genome and those ones that aren't aligned at all). But this is a manual and subjective inspection and it would be better if there were good metrics.

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  • Torst
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    I concur that velvet works well for Solexa data but goes a bit off when incorporating long (Sanger) reads.

    Newbler does seem best at handling 454 data. Other assemblers (phrap, cap3) tend to not handle the homopolymeric runs very well, or maybe they just have bias toward Sanger like sequence projects.

    We have done some testing of using phrap to assemble 454 CONTIGS (from Newbler) with Sanger paired end and primer walk reads. The results are mixed - I had to reduce the stringency of phrap via many of the never-touched parameters to get it to do better than the default.

    I have yet to try cap3. I am interested as it claims to use paired end data properly, unlike phrap which seems to only use it to check consistency rather than use the pair insert size sensibly.

    Mira looks like a powerful solution, but with power comes complexity, which makes it difficult to master. Haven't successfully done any hybrid assembly with it yet.

    As an aside, beware of using N50 as your quality metric. For example, joining two contigs inappropriately will increase your N50 but your assembly is worse! I guess a metric which includes a reference sequence would be more meaningful (if you have a reference).

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  • glacerda
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    de novo hybrid assembly

    Hi you all!

    I'm trying to build a pipeline for hybrid (454/sanger/solexa) de novo assemblies.

    I thought of:

    velvet: to assemble solexa
    newbler: to assemble 454 (since newbler assembles at the flowgram level, I think it is the most accurate for 454)
    cap3: to assemble sanger + newbler contigs + velvet contigs

    Velvet assembles Streptococcus suis solexa reads well, but it performed poorly (N50 decreases from 5K to 4K) when I included 1.5X sanger reads.

    What do you think is the best approach for de novo hybrid assemblies?
    is there any software (besides Mira) that claims to do true hybrid assemblies?

    Cheers

    glacerda

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