Unconfigured Ad

Collapse
X
 
  • Time
  • Show
Clear All
new posts
  • joseph
    Member
    • Feb 2008
    • 39

    #1

    seed length in TopHat?

    Is there a way to control the seed length in the TopHat command?
    I know in Bowtie I can use -l/--seedlen or -3/--trim3.
    Thanks
    Joseph
  • sdriscoll
    I like code
    • Sep 2009
    • 436

    #2
    i believe you'd use the --segment-length <int> option. my data is 87bp and when left up to it's own devices Tophat splits those into 3 chunks of 25, 25 and 37. I tried a few times to set the --segment-length value to the length of my reads, 87, but it crashed Tophat each time (buffer overflow). I also set --segment-length to 40 which led Tophat to split my reads into 2 parts. that didn't crash it.
    /* Shawn Driscoll, Gene Expression Laboratory, Pfaff
    Salk Institute for Biological Studies, La Jolla, CA, USA */

    Comment

    • joseph
      Member
      • Feb 2008
      • 39

      #3
      Actually, I heard from Cole that this parameter is controlled by TopHat, users cannot set it.

      Comment

      • sdriscoll
        I like code
        • Sep 2009
        • 436

        #4
        users are not allowed to control the parameters sent to Bowtie because Tophat relies on a certain configuration and it has to generate a certain amount of stuff or else it's algorithms don't work. I thought about tweaking the Bowtie settings myself until I realised this from reading about Bowtie and then reading more about Tophat.

        however, if you were to set --segment-length to the same length as your reads (in my case 87) then when Tophat passes the reads to Bowtie for alignment in the first stage it forces Bowtie to align the 87bp reads end-to-end. If you allow Tophat to split the reads up into smaller pieces it does so BEFORE Bowtie runs its initial alignments so it'll align reads of 25bp instead of the full 87 in my case. so in a way it is similar to the options you'd pass to Bowtie for seed length but in Tophat's case it applies to the alignment and the junction search.
        /* Shawn Driscoll, Gene Expression Laboratory, Pfaff
        Salk Institute for Biological Studies, La Jolla, CA, USA */

        Comment

        • joseph
          Member
          • Feb 2008
          • 39

          #5
          What would be the difference between the two options (Tophat forcing Bowtie to do end-to-end mapping versus the default option of TopHat where the reads are split)? I am specifically interested in the effect on splice junction mapping.

          Comment

          • sdriscoll
            I like code
            • Sep 2009
            • 436

            #6
            Without an answer directly from the author I'd say your best bet is to just run your data with those different options and compare the results. In fact I'm going to do this myself because I'd like to know more about how these settings alter the output as well.
            /* Shawn Driscoll, Gene Expression Laboratory, Pfaff
            Salk Institute for Biological Studies, La Jolla, CA, USA */

            Comment

            Latest Articles

            Collapse

            • SEQadmin2
              Multiomic Liquid Biopsy: What DNA/RNA Panels Reveal That DNA Alone Can’t
              by SEQadmin2



              Tumors contain complex mixtures of cell populations that evolve in response to treatment and host-specific factors. Tissue biopsies provide only static snapshots of a tumor’s state. But what if we could follow that evolution over time using a minimally invasive technique?

              Liquid biopsies can detect tumor-derived material circulating in the bloodstream, providing a way to study treatment response, detect emerging resistance, and discover new biomarkers. Circulating
              ...
              10-14-2026, 09:55 AM
            • SEQadmin2
              New Genomics Technologies Take Aim at Long-Standing Limits
              by SEQadmin2


              Researchers using sequencing and genomics tools often have to make trade-offs. They can choose between speed or scale, short reads or long-range information, or targeted panels or a view of the whole transcriptome. New technologies that have been released this year are built to address those tough choices.

              We asked six companies the same four questions to learn about their latest products. The new technologies bring a lot to the table, including rethinking sequencing
              ...
              09-28-2026, 10:25 AM

            ad_right_rmr

            Collapse

            News

            Collapse

            Topics Statistics Last Post
            Started by SEQadmin2, Yesterday, 11:13 AM
            0 responses
            17 views
            0 reactions
            Last Post SEQadmin2  
            Started by SEQadmin2, Yesterday, 10:48 AM
            0 responses
            18 views
            0 reactions
            Last Post SEQadmin2  
            Started by SEQadmin2, 10-15-2026, 10:52 AM
            0 responses
            36 views
            0 reactions
            Last Post SEQadmin2  
            Started by SEQadmin2, 10-14-2026, 05:39 AM
            0 responses
            42 views
            0 reactions
            Last Post SEQadmin2  
            Working...