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  • Brian Bushnell
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    Ah, yes, that's a problem. Normally I use a minimum length of 11 to prevent that kind of issue. If you have paired reads, you can use BBDuk's tbo flag in addition to the normal sequence matching. Tbo (trim by overlap) will eliminate even 1bp of adapter sequence based on overlap rather than sequence matching, to yield very complete adapter extinction without incurring bias.

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  • MU Core
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    I think we've figured out the issue with the peculiar 3' end plot. Our informatics group noticed that there was no minimum length set for trimming adapter sequence. The adapter sequence starts with “AGAT”. Thus, any sequence ending in “A” gets trimmed, any sequence ending in “AG” also gets trimmed, and so forth with “AGA”, “AGAT” and for the rest of the adapter sequence.

    Assuming sequences are random:
    one fourth of sequences would end in “A”
    one sixteenth of sequences would end in “AG”
    one sixty-fourth of sequences would end in “AGA”
    one 256th of sequences would end in “AGAT”

    All of these “matching” endings will be trimmed resulting in the plot characteristics previously posted.

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  • nucacidhunter
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    I have seen this pattern in low diversity amplicons only and their FastQC pattern matches the Data By Cycle (%Base) in SAV of run.

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  • Brian Bushnell
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    Oh, that's odd, then. There are some other things like random-hexamer-primed libraries that also have similar issues. I think it would be worthwhile generating an error-rate histogram to verify whether the mismatch rate is increased in that region. You can do so with BBMap like this:

    bbmap.sh in=reads.fq ref=ref.fa mhist=mhist.txt bhist=bhist.txt whist=qhist.txt

    If the error rate is not increased, I recommend against trimming.

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  • MU Core
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    Brian, you were correct though that these libraries were not Nextera.

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  • Brian Bushnell
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    Sample W looks very typical of Nextera. Trimming the 3' end is not recommended in these cases because the bases are correct. It will not change the bias, just hide the bias so that your FastQC report looks better.

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  • MU Core
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    Here are a couple more examples. Sample M is that of a DNA PCR-free library sequenced on a HiSeq. Sample W is a TruSeq mRNA library sequenced on a NextSeq.

    Brian and Michael's suggestions both offer an explanation that I think explains these observations. It would also suggest that trimming the reads prior to the FastQC report being generated that the bias in the 3'end will removed. I'll give this a try and share the results.

    Thank you again for your comments.
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  • Brian Bushnell
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    Originally posted by MU Core View Post
    I observe the same 3' characteristic as previously reported in this thread. A representative plot is provided. The plot shown is a DNA library with insert size >350bp. However, we see this in all our FastQC plots. It is independent of library type, instrument (NextSeq or HiSeq), or read length (50, 75, or 100 bases). Therefore, I'm not inclined to see this as a library prep/chemistry issue. Has anyone also encountered this characteristic and identified a reason? Thank you in advance for comments.
    Are you using Nextera for fragmentation? That's been identified as the cause of severe bias on the 5' (left) end. However, yours looks very sedate, so if I were to guess, I would say this is NOT a Nextera library. Have you looked into the empirical error rates (from mapping) of the left end to see if there is a corresponding increase? That will indicate whether this is bias, or an actual base-calling/non-genomic sequence issue.

    The 3' end is just showing the normal Illumina biased/low-quality last base due to a lack of a subsequent base call needed for calibration; I always trim the last base in 76/101/151/etc. runs.

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  • Michael.Ante
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    Did you see this pattern also with the "--nogroup" option?
    The bases are binned without that option; which let the distribution may look smoother than it is. The last base, shown in your figure, is just a single bin.

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  • nucacidhunter
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    It is either library or possibly demultiplexing issue. Could you post plots from other runs with similar pattern(s) with the library electropherogram.

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  • MU Core
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    I observe the same 3' characteristic as previously reported in this thread. A representative plot is provided. The plot shown is a DNA library with insert size >350bp. However, we see this in all our FastQC plots. It is independent of library type, instrument (NextSeq or HiSeq), or read length (50, 75, or 100 bases). Therefore, I'm not inclined to see this as a library prep/chemistry issue. Has anyone also encountered this characteristic and identified a reason? Thank you in advance for comments.
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  • kirstyn
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    Originally posted by kmcarr View Post
    I know this wasn't the question you were asking but it's not really necessary to trim off those 5' bases. The sequence is not incorrect. It simply represents the slight bias that the Nextera tagmentase has for certain sequence composition.
    Yes thanks for that comment. I wasn't quite sure if I should trim off the 5' bases, especially since I am mapping my reads but I had read about both random hexamer and nextera transposome bias so I decided to trim! I think I will try it without too!

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  • kmcarr
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    Originally posted by kirstyn View Post
    The first 20 or so bases at the 5'end are due to Nextera which I just trim off
    I know this wasn't the question you were asking but it's not really necessary to trim off those 5' bases. The sequence is not incorrect. It simply represents the slight bias that the Nextera tagmentase has for certain sequence composition.

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  • GenoMax
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    Originally posted by kirstyn View Post
    Thanks for your reply . The average size of my libraries is usually >350bp, which I assumed was ok for 150bp PE reads? Looking in Tablet there is a large degree of overlap between paired reads- is this indicative of the library being too short? I am mapping the reads to a reference sequence and looking for SNPs so I am not worried about overlap in the read pairs. How would this affect the 3'end of my reads?
    You can easily determine how big the inserts are by looking at the extent of overlap (it sounds like a fraction of your library is no where near the expected 350 bp size). If some of the inserts are smaller than 150 bp then you will start reading into the adapter at the other end and beyond. If these reads are not aligning well on the 3'-end then you may need to trim them.

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  • kirstyn
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    Thanks for your reply . The average size of my libraries is usually >350bp, which I assumed was ok for 150bp PE reads? Looking in Tablet there is a large degree of overlap between paired reads- is this indicative of the library being too short? I am mapping the reads to a reference sequence and looking for SNPs so I am not worried about overlap in the read pairs. How would this affect the 3'end of my reads?

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