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  • cburke11
    Member
    • Aug 2011
    • 11

    #1

    DESeq GLM vs. Pairwise

    Hello all,

    I have an experiment in which I have 3 time-points, (T=0, T=1, and T=2) and two strains of a moth species. The two species differ in a physiological response to a stimulus that is applied right before T=1, T=0 is before the stimulus, and T=2 is a few days after. One strain reacts right away and the other does not. My question is, what genes are different between the two strains at each time-point?

    Here is the design:

    condition strain
    D E
    D E
    D E
    D E
    D E
    D1 E
    D1 E
    D1 E
    D1 E
    D1 E
    D7 E
    D7 E
    D7 E
    D7 E
    D7 E
    D Z
    D Z
    D Z
    D Z
    D Z
    D1 Z
    D1 Z
    D1 Z
    D1 Z
    D1 Z
    D7 Z
    D7 Z
    D7 Z
    D7 Z
    D7 Z

    My initial thought was to do pairwise comparisons of each of the 3 time-points between each strain but then a lab-mate brought up the problem of multiple-testing. My question is, will this be an issue? Or should I try and use a model? I will probably wind up subtracting the DE genes at T=0 from all DE gene lists because we are suggesting that these are due to population divergence. Any thoughts??

    Thanks in advance for any help!
  • Wolfgang Huber
    Senior Member
    • Aug 2009
    • 109

    #2
    Dear cburke11

    re multiple testing, if you compute, for each time point, an FDR-oriented p-value adjustment (e.g. Benjamini-Hochberg, what DESeq does by default), then you can combine gene lists from the different time points without further worring about multiple testing, since FDR is a rate (e.g. if you have list A with 10% false disocoveries, and list B with 10% false discoveries, then lists A+B and A\B will also have 10% false discoveries).

    Doing the analysis time-point wise and doing arithmetic with gene lists is intuitive and easy, and may be OK in practice. More elegant (and more sensitive) would be to fit an ANOVA-like model with strain and time as factors, and with an interaction term, so you can find the genes which respond to the stimulus differently between strains E and Z. If unsure, consult one of the many textbooks on linear modelling in R.

    Hope this helps
    Wolfgang
    Wolfgang Huber
    EMBL

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    • cburke11
      Member
      • Aug 2011
      • 11

      #3
      Thank you, your advice is very helpful! After also discussing it with some lab members I believe that modeling is the way to go.

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