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  • PacMan
    Junior Member
    • Jul 2014
    • 7

    #1

    Assembly MiSeq Paired End

    Hi ,

    I'm looking for doing an assembly on a between 80 to 100Mb nematode genome.
    I've paired end 2x250bp , and I read a lot about assembly on the internet but I confused me more than help me to choose the right tool ...
    I read a lot on SPAdes, velvet, soapdenovo, abyss, ... The problem is that the kmer size is really short , and I read that I've to take a kmer size of more than the half mean length sequence, and preferrably 2/3 of the mean length sequence, normally it's 146 here. But I can do it with no one.

    Have you solutions for me, or way to continue my research ?

    Regards
    PacMan
  • dgscofield
    Member
    • Nov 2010
    • 28

    #2
    We've had good results with ABySS on paired-end MiSeq for fungal genomes about half that size. You can use longer kmers with ABySS, but you need to specify the maximum size you want when you first configure it, for example to configure ABySS to have maximum kmer 128 you simply do

    Code:
    ./configure --enable-maxk=128 && make
    It's all described in the ABySS README.

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    • PacMan
      Junior Member
      • Jul 2014
      • 7

      #3
      Ok thanks.
      So, I'm working on a supercomputer with many bioinformatics tools pre-installed, it will be better to reinstall it in my source directory myself with a better configuration (especially with a known configuration) ?
      Or how to know on which kmer is it configurate, and where to find it ? (Like a log file of the configuration)
      Last edited by PacMan; 07-12-2014, 09:03 AM.

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      • dgscofield
        Member
        • Nov 2010
        • 28

        #4
        Yes, and ABySS is very easy to set up.

        In our national cluster, we have three separate modules of the latest ABySS with different maxk values for each. Perhaps your cluster has something like that as well, alternatively you can ask the support team to install an additional module of ABySS configured with this large maxk, if you think it could be useful to others as well.

        But yes, installing it for yourself is quickest and most directly under your own control.

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        • dgscofield
          Member
          • Nov 2010
          • 28

          #5
          And in answer to your question about determining which kmer is configured, the only way I know of is to supply an absurdly large value to the ABYSS executable directly (not the abyss-pe wrapper script).

          Code:
          $ ABYSS -k 1000 -o dummy.out dummy.in
          ABYSS: ../Common/Kmer.h:49: static void Kmer::setLength(unsigned int): Assertion `length <= 128' failed.
          Aborted (core dumped)

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          • PacMan
            Junior Member
            • Jul 2014
            • 7

            #6
            Thanks a lot ! I'll try it

            And i'm already open to others assemblers proposal

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            • PacMan
              Junior Member
              • Jul 2014
              • 7

              #7
              Originally posted by Benjamin
              I guess that is the right method when its about comparing both the things and moving ahead into the right direction because finally that is the way for it.
              Till the the time its more like a way which doesn't really work on certain things and we can surely get to learn things from them.
              Could you explain a little bit more what you mean ? I'm not sure that I understood what you said ..

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              • dgscofield
                Member
                • Nov 2010
                • 28

                #8
                Pacman, that is spam, I've already reported it. Some sort of bot, check the rest of 'Benjamin's posts and they're nonsense.

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                • PacMan
                  Junior Member
                  • Jul 2014
                  • 7

                  #9
                  I looked at all his posts before to post it and I found it really weird, but I wasn't sure ...

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                  • dgscofield
                    Member
                    • Nov 2010
                    • 28

                    #10
                    As far as other assemblers, we used spades and mira to assemble the MiSeq data as well but they both took a very very long time, days instead of an hour or so, and as far as we can tell so far (read mappings, protein alignments, etc) the ABySS assembly looks very good.

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                    • GenoMax
                      Senior Member
                      • Feb 2008
                      • 7142

                      #11
                      I am not sure if 100 Mb genome would be too large for SPAdes but if you are willing you could certainly try it.

                      SPAPdenovo may be another option to try.

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                      • PacMan
                        Junior Member
                        • Jul 2014
                        • 7

                        #12
                        Thanks for the suggestion, I think I will run both ABYSS and SOAP, if I have the time velvet and find the good configuration , and compare all with QUAST

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                        • avo
                          Member
                          • Sep 2013
                          • 14

                          #13
                          you could also check Platanus. It uses a multi-kmer approach and can handle kmer sizes > 127. We obtain good results with MiSeq 2x300bp reads.

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