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  • sklages
    Senior Member
    • May 2008
    • 628

    How to make big datasets available for cooperation partners

    A few fastq and bam files quickly sum up to a few hundred GB of data.

    How do make this amount of data available for others (outside the LAN) to work with?
    Webserver/FTP to let user download the files (wget etc). Or actively copying the data via scp to external servers (-l xxx?).

    Do you limit network speed (to what speed) to avoid clogging network?

    Do you even use external harddisks on a regular basis?

    best,
    Sven
  • GenoMax
    Senior Member
    • Feb 2008
    • 7142

    #2
    Putting the data up on a webserver is relatively easy and secure (if you add some authentication). If bandwidth is not an issue at your (and the collaborators) location then you should be all set. If people only need to view the data then this mechanism will also work with IGV etc.

    You could (as long as your institutional policy allows) look into putting the data up on Amazon/Box/Google storage. This would not be a cheap option but since you are asking about possibilities. There are some limits on individual file sizes etc so you may need to split the files up if you go this route.

    Some commercial entities favor harddisks for data transfer. So yes, that is still an option.

    Finally you could use SRA. Submit the data there and let them keep a copy. I know you can ask for an embargo on public release (for a year I think). Am not sure if you are able to share the data with a collaborator during that period.
    Last edited by GenoMax; 09-05-2014, 03:32 AM.

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    • sklages
      Senior Member
      • May 2008
      • 628

      #3
      Commercial storage is not an option.

      Bandwidth is an issue; we currently limit to 10Mbit/s per individual copy job. That works if one or two people copy a few (huge) files.

      Just curious how much effort others "invest" to optimize this procedure :-)
      (or what has proven practical in a day-by-day routine in other labs)

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      • westerman
        Rick Westerman
        • Jun 2008
        • 1104

        #4
        We are moving towards using Globus as transfer method. www.globus.org Globus does not speed up transfers per se -- you are still limited by bandwidth. What Globus offers is a 'fire and forget' method of data transfer. I don't pay for the service and work for a university in any case thus am uncertain if this is financially feasible for you.

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        • sklages
          Senior Member
          • May 2008
          • 628

          #5
          Originally posted by westerman View Post
          We are moving towards using Globus as transfer method. www.globus.org Globus does not speed up transfers per se -- you are still limited by bandwidth. What Globus offers is a 'fire and forget' method of data transfer. I don't pay for the service and work for a university in any case thus am uncertain if this is financially feasible for you.
          Interesting approach. I'll have a look.

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          • Brian Bushnell
            Super Moderator
            • Jan 2014
            • 2709

            #6
            There's always the external-hard-drive-in-the-mail option if people are in the same country. That approach has been used routinely by, for example, Complete Genomics.

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            • sklages
              Senior Member
              • May 2008
              • 628

              #7
              Originally posted by Brian Bushnell View Post
              There's always the external-hard-drive-in-the-mail option if people are in the same country. That approach has been used routinely by, for example, Complete Genomics.
              Sure, we usually use this option when we want to provide a complete Illumina run folder. But for routine (fastq/bam) data distribution it is not very feasable.

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              • jpummil
                Member
                • Apr 2014
                • 85

                #8
                Originally posted by westerman View Post
                We are moving towards using Globus as transfer method. www.globus.org Globus does not speed up transfers per se -- you are still limited by bandwidth. What Globus offers is a 'fire and forget' method of data transfer. I don't pay for the service and work for a university in any case thus am uncertain if this is financially feasible for you.
                Same here...Globus has proven to be faster than scp (barring bandwidth limitations, of course), very reliable, and easy to set up and use. I'd recommend giving it a go!

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                • Richard Finney
                  Senior Member
                  • Feb 2009
                  • 701

                  #9
                  Never underestimate the bandwidth of a station wagon full of tapes hurtling down the highway.

                  —Tanenbaum, Andrew S. (1989). Computer Networks. New Jersey: Prentice-Hall. p. 57. ISBN 0-13-166836-6.

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