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  • JosieR
    Junior Member
    • Jul 2010
    • 5

    #1

    SAMtools - * character in pileup file

    Hi all,

    I'm trying to interpret some SAMtools pileup data I generated, and I ran into a character that isn't explained in the pileup format explanation page: http://samtools.sourceforge.net/pileup.shtml
    Here's what my data look like:

    X 24364 T 34 ,..,.,.,,...,,.,.,,,,,,,.,,,,,.*..
    X 24365 C 36 ,$T$.,.,.,,...,,.,.,,,,,,,.,,,,,.*..^F.^:.
    X 24366 A 34 .,.-1T,.c,...,,.,.,,,,,,,.,,,,,.,....
    X 24367 T 36 .,*,.,,...,,.,.,,,,,,,.,,,,,.,....^:a^F,
    X 24368 T 36 .$,.,.,,...,,.,.,,,,,,,.,,,,,.,....gg
    X 24369 T 36 ,$._,.,,...,,.,.,,,,,,,.,,,,,.,....ag^F.

    So you'll see that lines 24364, 24365, and 24367 contain positions annotated by "*". What does this mean? The pileup format explanation page is clear about all the other characters just not this one...
  • sdriscoll
    I like code
    • Sep 2009
    • 436

    #2
    I wonder if those are the same notation as you see in their sample images of the viewer on http://samtools.sourceforge.net/tview.shtml

    I'm not sure what those mean either. I was going to guess that they note insertions or deletions but it seems they have a separate notation for that. Did you generate this pileup data using SAMtools?
    /* Shawn Driscoll, Gene Expression Laboratory, Pfaff
    Salk Institute for Biological Studies, La Jolla, CA, USA */

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    • JosieR
      Junior Member
      • Jul 2010
      • 5

      #3
      Originally posted by sdriscoll View Post
      I wonder if those are the same notation as you see in their sample images of the viewer on http://samtools.sourceforge.net/tview.shtml

      I'm not sure what those mean either. I was going to guess that they note insertions or deletions but it seems they have a separate notation for that. Did you generate this pileup data using SAMtools?
      Yep, I used SAMtools to create this pileup data and the original alignment was done using BWA (I think bwa's first author is the same as SAMtools'?). I will probably try emailing the author directly if no one replies soon.

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      • nilshomer
        Nils Homer
        • Nov 2008
        • 1283

        #4
        They are placeholders for deletions so that the coverage column matches the number of characters (answered in other posts; please search them first).

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        • JosieR
          Junior Member
          • Jul 2010
          • 5

          #5
          I don't think this answer works for my case. These characters are appearing at positions that don't have annotated insertions or deletions e.g.:
          X 24466 G 33 ,,,...,,.,,..,,,,,,...,,.,,,,.*.. fefbea`fffdBedfff_affffdWcbbbfbfY

          According to the http://samtools.sourceforge.net/pileup.shtml pileup faq page, an insertion or deletion should be annotated e.g. -1 or +1 etc:
          X 24573 T 31 .G,C.,....,,,,,,.,,,g,,,,,.*,,,+1c dBfBafaac`feedd_cedfBdB_BdXBcB`

          Why would there have to be a placeholder in the first case when there is no insertion or deletion in the pileup?

          Also, I did search first and found nothing related to "*". pileup, and SAMtools - but thank you for taking the time to answer. Perhaps if you direct me to those threads I could find further clarification there.

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          • nilshomer
            Nils Homer
            • Nov 2008
            • 1283

            #6
            Originally posted by JosieR View Post
            I don't think this answer works for my case. These characters are appearing at positions that don't have annotated insertions or deletions e.g.:
            X 24466 G 33 ,,,...,,.,,..,,,,,,...,,.,,,,.*.. fefbea`fffdBedfff_affffdWcbbbfbfY

            According to the http://samtools.sourceforge.net/pileup.shtml pileup faq page, an insertion or deletion should be annotated e.g. -1 or +1 etc:
            X 24573 T 31 .G,C.,....,,,,,,.,,,g,,,,,.*,,,+1c dBfBafaac`feedd_cedfBdB_BdXBcB`

            Why would there have to be a placeholder in the first case when there is no insertion or deletion in the pileup?

            Also, I did search first and found nothing related to "*". pileup, and SAMtools - but thank you for taking the time to answer. Perhaps if you direct me to those threads I could find further clarification there.
            See the SAMtools FAQ's answer: http://sourceforge.net/apps/mediawik...at_are_they.3F

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            • JosieR
              Junior Member
              • Jul 2010
              • 5

              #7
              Originally posted by nilshomer View Post
              Ok, but what's the difference between a deletion that is annotated * versus one that is annotated -1A ?

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              • lh3
                Senior Member
                • Feb 2008
                • 686

                #8
                Same......

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                • JosieR
                  Junior Member
                  • Jul 2010
                  • 5

                  #9
                  Originally posted by lh3 View Post
                  Same......
                  But is there a reason why the program will sometimes put -1A and sometimes put *?

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                  • foxyg
                    Member
                    • May 2010
                    • 54

                    #10
                    NM, figured it out
                    Last edited by foxyg; 09-08-2010, 12:14 PM.

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