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  • dlbuz
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    • May 2016
    • 10

    #1

    TopHat output very large read lengths from RNA-Seq

    I have a problem with tophat v2.1 outputting read lengths that are extremely large and causing problems downstream. I have extracted the read lengths from sam file and plotted a histogram to see that majority of my read lengths are of normal size but there are some that are 10,000-100,000 bp (< 1%). This causes my data have long stretches of a chromosome which contain a constant signal over 100,000 bp (basically a straight line across the entire region).

    Does TopHat have a way to filter out these erroneous reads? I have made a python script to filter out these reads but I'd rather do it in a one-step approach as opposed to having to go through multiple steps.

    Thank you!
  • wdecoster
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    • Oct 2015
    • 97

    #2
    But are these reads present in your fastq file?

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    • dlbuz
      Member
      • May 2016
      • 10

      #3
      I don't believe so as TopHat outputs the minimum and maximum read length from the fastq and it always says minimum: 33 bp and maximum: 33 bp

      Ex.

      [2016-07-15 00:07:29] Preparing reads
      left reads: min. length=33, max. length=33, 7668831 kept reads (338 discarded)
      right reads: min. length=33, max. length=33, 7668468 kept reads (701 discarded)

      I'm assuming tophat is fusing two reads together that in reality are hundreds of kb apart and then genomeCov (bedtools) fills in the gap because the signal is always a straight line. It could be an issue with the reference genome (yeast R64-1-1 from ensembl). but, as far as I can tell ensembl has the newest build
      Last edited by dlbuz; 07-15-2016, 07:07 AM.

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      • wdecoster
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        • Oct 2015
        • 97

        #4
        Sounds like splicing?

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        • dlbuz
          Member
          • May 2016
          • 10

          #5
          So, I've narrowed it down to one chrVII the region from 560 kb to 790 kb. Using the --no-mixed and --no-discordant options caused even more regions to be affected (my reads are paired end and figured this would give better results).

          I attached a picture of what I'm experiencing. The blue signal is just using bowtie to map to reference genome, while the red signal is using TopHat to map to reference genome. Apparently TopHat also tends to lose reads (As there is a huge signal in the bowtie method vs the TopHat method) Is there something specific TopHat uses in bowtie that causes this phenomenon? I've been using the --bowtie-n option in TopHat as well.
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          • dlbuz
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            • May 2016
            • 10

            #6
            The problem seems to be the -pc option in genomecoverageBed (bedtools v2.26.0). Unfortunately, I need this option in order to get proper strand specific outputs as -strand doesn't work on it's own without specifying paired end reads (ie -pc). Are there any other options I could try or other coverage programs out there? -fs function does not help either in limiting large reads that cover 100,000 kb
            Last edited by dlbuz; 07-21-2016, 09:15 AM.

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            • dlbuz
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              • May 2016
              • 10

              #7
              I was able to fix this issue by separating the .bam file into + and - strands using samtools and then running genomecoverageBED. Seems like bedtools has problems with separating the strands correctly of paired ends reads if they are merged. The -pc function was recently implemented in the new version of bedtools v2.26 so it probably doesn't work as well as it should

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