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  • harrike
    Member
    • Jun 2010
    • 29

    #1

    Novel question---What's .qual file for?

    Recently I got my sequencing data based on SOLiD system. For each sample I got two .csfasta files labled 1 and 2, and two .qual files corresponding to the csfasta file. Since I am quite new to this high throughput sequencing technology, I don't know how to use the .qual file for analysis. I know the .csfasta files contain the sequence data which are in color space format. I am able to convert the color space sequences to base space. So can i just use the csfasta file for the following analysis, such as trimming adaptor, alignment, and statistical analysis, without the .qual file?

    And the two .csfasta files (1 and 2) can be pooled together for analysis?

    Hope to get your help. Thank you in advance.
  • zhidkov.ilia
    Member
    • Dec 2010
    • 25

    #2
    Hi harrike,
    I'll try to give you short answer to your vey long question.
    You should use the qual files in order to perform more reliable alignment (the quality of base will help you to decrease the false positive call).
    You probably would like to start by building FASTQ files from csfasta and qual files you got.
    I'm really suggesting you not to convert the color space to bases before alignment or assembly, only after alignment.
    Most probably you have paired reads; this is why you have two qual and two csfasta files.
    As a beginner in Next Gen please consider to play with your data in Galaxy:
    Galaxy is a community-driven web-based analysis platform for life science research.


    Look for "NGS Toolbox Beta" and take a tutorial of SOLiD mapping.

    This should help you better understand (in basic) how properly deal with your data.

    Best,

    Ilia

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    • harrike
      Member
      • Jun 2010
      • 29

      #3
      IIia,

      Thank you for your reply. You answer is quite helpful to me.

      Actually, my lab has bought the CLC workbench, which is not available to me now since I am out of the lab for a period. I just want to understand the data more before my analysis.

      Yes, there is a lot I need to know. Thank you for your kind help.

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      • Tatanka
        Junior Member
        • Mar 2012
        • 4

        #4
        Bump - Hello, I just joined this forum, but I'd like to ask about QUAL files. I recently analyzed the data in my FASTA file without a QUAL file to go with it from the pyrosequencing facility. I am going to rerun the analysis now that I have received an accompanying QUAL file, but I wanted to know how much the two analyses may be expected to differ. Is the first analysis pretty much useless without a QUAL file? Is the second analysis going to yield radically different results from the first?

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        • twaddlac
          Member
          • Feb 2011
          • 49

          #5
          That depends on the type of analysis and what you're looking for. Before you redo the entire analysis you should try and plot the average distribution of the quality score per base to see if there are any regions that would alter your result - i.e. if the fifth base of every read had a very low quality.

          But answer your question, I haven't seen a significant increase in performance when mapping though enough miss-called bases or low quality bases can affect your results and suggest something that is not really there. However the assembly process seems to be affected a lot, specifically de novo assembly. One trick that is commonly used is to filter the low quality reads (based on the quality score, of course) and then assemble which has worked wonders.

          So it really depends on your analysis but all in all, from 454 - especially if you're interested in the 5' end of the reads (e.g. amplicon) - then you shouldn't see too much of a difference. I would be interested to hear your results if you happen to redo the entire analysis.

          I hope that helps!

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          • Tatanka
            Junior Member
            • Mar 2012
            • 4

            #6
            Thanks! Yeah, I'm wondering how much relative abundance of a certain taxon will be affected by QUAL scores. Sounds like it would not be very much, which is good, because I need to share the analysis I have now with a collaborator. I will certainly tell them about what is missing from this analysis, but hopefully the picture that emerges now will still be useful. I will rerun this with the QUAL scores soon, so I will let you know how it turns out.

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            • twaddlac
              Member
              • Feb 2011
              • 49

              #7
              How divergent is this taxon from the rest of the population? How strict are your settings? With that type of analysis the stringency of the parameters at which you distinguish one taxon from another could change dramatically IF the quality values are poor. I think it would be most advantageous to plot the quality distribution and filter out bad reads if need be.

              Please keep me posted on what you find out, thanks!
              Last edited by twaddlac; 03-30-2012, 09:12 AM. Reason: fix error

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              • Tatanka
                Junior Member
                • Mar 2012
                • 4

                #8
                Well, the results are in. I performed the analysis both with and without the QUAL data, and the final results were pretty similar. In both analyses, the relative abundances of the various taxa were about the same, giving the same overall picture for community composition.

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                • carmeyeii
                  Senior Member
                  • Mar 2011
                  • 137

                  #9
                  Hello,

                  Are the values in the .qual files I get from SOLiD runs simply Phred scores using the standard equation , and without encoding into ASCII ??

                  Thanks a lot!

                  Carmen

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                  • carmeyeii
                    Senior Member
                    • Mar 2011
                    • 137

                    #10
                    Yes, they are.

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