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  • marcowanger
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    Originally posted by dan View Post
    Just my opinion. Feel free to aim in any direction, but the above is what I suggest ;-)

    Cheers,
    You raised an important point everyone has to remember during writing.

    If I'm an astrophysicist reading about SEQanswers, what do I want to know? Why am I interested in this project?

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  • dan
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    Originally posted by marcowanger View Post
    Thank you Dan for the direction of the letter we have to aim.
    Just my opinion. Feel free to aim in any direction, but the above is what I suggest ;-)

    Cheers,

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  • marcowanger
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    Thank you Dan for the direction of the letter we have to aim.



    Originally posted by dan View Post
    OK, it reads good, but I'd emphasize the 'success' of the platform, which has been driven by the developing technology and the 'information gap' in other media....

    i.e.

    * NGS takes off.
    * Information about NGS becomes crucial asset for everyone.
    * Publication / education / conferences / etc. can't keep up.
    * Along comes a forum, and takes off in a big way.
    ** Used in various ways... by various experts...
    * Finally:

    A forum isn't a traditional scientific medium, but the 'perfect storm' of rapid development in the field, rapid application in the lab, and the slow pace of 'traditional' methods of scientific communication made the forum an ideal communication method for scientists...

    As it stands, the paper is like... we made a forum... the forum is big... it is used ... the end.

    The key points are the novelty and the success of the site in the scientific arena. People posting results on a forum is unprecedented in recent years, but is exactly what science is about, sharing information.

    I don't see the fascination with BioStar. If you start mentioning other projects, the list could be endless. The point of the letter is to emphasize how new and interesting the SEQanswers community is, mentioning the many citations it has already received, how widely used it is, and the cutting edge discussions and announcements that it hosts. e.g. BGI, EBI, NCBI, etc.

    Putting the forum in the context of all others projects is a bigger work. Here we need to put the site in the broadest possible context, but nothing else. IMHO.

    i.e. If I'm an astrophysicist reading about SEQanswers, what do I want to know? Why am I interested in this project? Do I care because it breaks new ground in building a community around a new field? Or because it's similar to something called BioStar?


    Just my 2p.

    Dan.

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  • dan
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    OK, it reads good, but I'd emphasize the 'success' of the platform, which has been driven by the developing technology and the 'information gap' in other media....

    i.e.

    * NGS takes off.
    * Information about NGS becomes crucial asset for everyone.
    * Publication / education / conferences / etc. can't keep up.
    * Along comes a forum, and takes off in a big way.
    ** Used in various ways... by various experts...
    * Finally:

    A forum isn't a traditional scientific medium, but the 'perfect storm' of rapid development in the field, rapid application in the lab, and the slow pace of 'traditional' methods of scientific communication made the forum an ideal communication method for scientists...

    As it stands, the paper is like... we made a forum... the forum is big... it is used ... the end.

    The key points are the novelty and the success of the site in the scientific arena. People posting results on a forum is unprecedented in recent years, but is exactly what science is about, sharing information.

    I don't see the fascination with BioStar. If you start mentioning other projects, the list could be endless. The point of the letter is to emphasize how new and interesting the SEQanswers community is, mentioning the many citations it has already received, how widely used it is, and the cutting edge discussions and announcements that it hosts. e.g. BGI, EBI, NCBI, etc.

    Putting the forum in the context of all others projects is a bigger work. Here we need to put the site in the broadest possible context, but nothing else. IMHO.

    i.e. If I'm an astrophysicist reading about SEQanswers, what do I want to know? Why am I interested in this project? Do I care because it breaks new ground in building a community around a new field? Or because it's similar to something called BioStar?


    Just my 2p.

    Dan.
    Last edited by dan; 11-01-2011, 07:57 AM. Reason: Reminder that Nature is read by all disciplines.

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  • marcowanger
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    For the "Outlook and perspective". Thanks for that

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  • marcowanger
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    Originally posted by robs View Post
    I added some more details to the second paragraph.

    As for the use cases, I think the list of publications [2-13] provide sufficient examples.

    I think we should try to add some future directions in the last paragraph. Maybe something along the lines of the BioStar "Outlook and Perspectives" part. I will try to add this tomorrow.
    Agree to certain extent, indeed the references are strong support of the community but we should explicitly describe how briefly. Just too vague to say the community has helped a lot of ppl without even telling the reader how speficically.

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  • robs
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    I added some more details to the second paragraph.

    As for the use cases, I think the list of publications [2-13] provide sufficient examples.

    I think we should try to add some future directions in the last paragraph. Maybe something along the lines of the BioStar "Outlook and Perspectives" part. I will try to add this tomorrow.

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  • marcowanger
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    Originally posted by robs View Post
    The first two paragraphs look good, but the last one needs some more editing and content. We used about 200 words for the first two paragraphs and have enough left to add more things.
    Differentiation of ourself from BioStar / More on unique FUNCTIONs served by this community / Usage success case.

    For usage success case, I have a document for that. I previously prepared it for reviewer...i can find it out and paste it here for reference. It is by no means complete, please add more if you know any..

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  • robs
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    The first two paragraphs look good, but the last one needs some more editing and content. We used about 200 words for the first two paragraphs and have enough left to add more things.

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  • marcowanger
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    Originally posted by marcowanger View Post
    Peter, I just personally think the current version is still too "advertisement" like.....lingering how to improve. And well, google ranking does not always reflect popularitu, it can be result of search engine optimization....We should focus on how the forum benefit the community as a whole....the idea is already there...
    The draft #2 looks good to me.

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  • marcowanger
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    Originally posted by ulz_peter View Post
    Sorry but what do you mean with "buzz" words?
    Peter, I just personally think the current version is still too "advertisement" like.....lingering how to improve. And well, google ranking does not always reflect popularitu, it can be result of search engine optimization....We should focus on how the forum benefit the community as a whole....the idea is already there...

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  • marcowanger
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    Originally posted by ulz_peter View Post
    just in case someone is wondering: I am the "Anonymous" who did the changes, but when I am logging in, Google changes the language to Thai...
    I think you have to login to gmail first? Otherwise it shows u as anonymous....

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  • marcowanger
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    Originally posted by andreas.sjodin View Post
    I modified the wiki page to get people to start using the Google document
    thanks Andreas

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  • andreas.sjodin
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    I modified the wiki page to get people to start using the Google document

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  • ulz_peter
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    The trimmed version and the Google Doc version do not contain these paragraphs.

    I think we should now focus on the Google Doc version.

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