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  • twu
    Developer of GMAP and GSNAP
    • Oct 2011
    • 17

    #16
    GSNAP can align bisulfite sequences, and was used to analyze methylation in the study of twins with multiple sclerosis that appeared in Nature last year. The latest version can handle both stranded and non-stranded bisulfite sequencing protocols.

    Regards,

    Tom

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    • rskr
      Senior Member
      • Oct 2010
      • 249

      #17
      Originally posted by twu View Post
      GSNAP can align bisulfite sequences, and was used to analyze methylation in the study of twins with multiple sclerosis that appeared in Nature last year. The latest version can handle both stranded and non-stranded bisulfite sequencing protocols.

      Regards,

      Tom
      Last I checked the GSNAP paper's bench marking methodology, he only generated reads that could be mapped, with variants only in the middle portion of reads. I doubt it gets any better for bisulfite converted data.

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      • twu
        Developer of GMAP and GSNAP
        • Oct 2011
        • 17

        #18
        I did the benchmarking that way in the original GSNAP paper only to compare it against other programs that couldn't handle more complex reads, not to provide a full assessment of the capabilities of GSNAP. For example, I didn't benchmark its ability to find distant fusions, such as translocations, or its ability to find multiple indels and splicing in a single read. If you want to see an independent evaluation of GSNAP, there was a comparison done by researchers at University of Pennsylvania that appeared in Bioinformatics recently.

        Regards,

        Tom

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        • rskr
          Senior Member
          • Oct 2010
          • 249

          #19
          Originally posted by twu View Post
          I did the benchmarking that way in the original GSNAP paper only to compare it against other programs that couldn't handle more complex reads, not to provide a full assessment of the capabilities of GSNAP. For example, I didn't benchmark its ability to find distant fusions, such as translocations, or its ability to find multiple indels and splicing in a single read. If you want to see an independent evaluation of GSNAP, there was a comparison done by researchers at University of Pennsylvania that appeared in Bioinformatics recently.

          Regards,

          Tom
          Did they evaluate GSNAP with bisulfite sequencing?

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          • twu
            Developer of GMAP and GSNAP
            • Oct 2011
            • 17

            #20
            No, it was a test of RNA-Seq simulated reads. And there are probably features of methylated reads that GSNAP does not assess, such as trying to evaluate various contexts, such as CG, CHG, and CHH. But it will align single-end or paired-end genomic reads having all possible substitutions of C to T with high speed and accuracy, including small and large indels and correctly accounting for T to C mismatches, and is not limited to variants in the middle of reads.

            Regards,

            Tom

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            • kalyankpy
              PostDoc
              • Mar 2010
              • 20

              #21
              Hi Yuanxin,

              I am quite interested in BSMAP. I am working on RRBS data from stem cells. I am trying to install BSMAP on my computer (Ubuntu 11.10, 64 bit). But it stops with an error. I posted the error messge at http://code.google.com/p/bsmap/issues/detail?id=7 . Can you fix this!

              Kalyan

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              • yxi
                Junior Member
                • Apr 2009
                • 6

                #22
                Hi Kalyan,

                The error is in compiling samtools, bsmap used samtools API to read SAM files.

                After google search I found someone experienced similar problems.



                Hope this could help

                Thanks,

                Yuanxin

                Originally posted by kalyankpy View Post
                Hi Yuanxin,

                I am quite interested in BSMAP. I am working on RRBS data from stem cells. I am trying to install BSMAP on my computer (Ubuntu 11.10, 64 bit). But it stops with an error. I posted the error messge at http://code.google.com/p/bsmap/issues/detail?id=7 . Can you fix this!

                Kalyan

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                • kalyankpy
                  PostDoc
                  • Mar 2010
                  • 20

                  #23
                  BSMAP installation on ubuntu

                  Hi Yuanxin,

                  I went through the link suggested by you! I noticed that there was a bug in the samtools in earlier versions which was rectified after 0.1.13 version (I noticed that the samtools you have provided with bsmap is 0.1.7).
                  I tried to overcome this bug by trying to download and install samtools-0.1.17 version from ubuntu repositories. I could install it successfully from repository. I also tried by downloading the sourcecode and compiled it with 'make' command. It workd perfectly. Assuming that problem is in the samtools, I replaced the samtools folder in bsmap with the newer version of samtools source code (0.1.18) and then tried compiling (with 'make').

                  This option took me few step ahead. Here I am attaching the output of the 'make' command. For me the problem doesnt seem to be in samtools rather it seems to be in some code that links BSMAP and SAMTOOLS (I am not a good programmer, I am learning! Its only my assumption. As a programmer you can analyze better!).
                  Attached Files

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                  • yxi
                    Junior Member
                    • Apr 2009
                    • 6

                    #24
                    Good to know you solved it. We experienced a runtime error using the later versions of SAMTOOLS on Power7 CPU based system. So BSMAP included an early version SAMTOOLS.

                    Originally posted by kalyankpy View Post
                    Hi Yuanxin,

                    I went through the link suggested by you! I noticed that there was a bug in the samtools in earlier versions which was rectified after 0.1.13 version (I noticed that the samtools you have provided with bsmap is 0.1.7).
                    I tried to overcome this bug by trying to download and install samtools-0.1.17 version from ubuntu repositories. I could install it successfully from repository. I also tried by downloading the sourcecode and compiled it with 'make' command. It workd perfectly. Assuming that problem is in the samtools, I replaced the samtools folder in bsmap with the newer version of samtools source code (0.1.18) and then tried compiling (with 'make').

                    This option took me few step ahead. Here I am attaching the output of the 'make' command. For me the problem doesnt seem to be in samtools rather it seems to be in some code that links BSMAP and SAMTOOLS (I am not a good programmer, I am learning! Its only my assumption. As a programmer you can analyze better!).

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                    • kalyankpy
                      PostDoc
                      • Mar 2010
                      • 20

                      #25
                      Hi, The problem still xists. I dont know if my message is clear for you. I could successfully install SAMTOOLS as a standalone application. However, I fail to install it when it is part of bsmap. Even if I replace the older version of SAMTOOLS with the newer version inside the BSMAP folder, the problem continues.

                      I liked the logic of your programme. I am just waiting for a solution to this installation problem.

                      Is it possible for you to send me the executibles for a 64 bit ubuntu system that can work for me (so that I dont need to compile them on mine as this problem persists)

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                      • kalyankpy
                        PostDoc
                        • Mar 2010
                        • 20

                        #26
                        Fix to the ubuntu installation of BSMAP

                        Hi,

                        Yes finally the problem is solved. Here I explain the steps that help me resolve the installation steps in Ubuntu 11.04

                        tweak the makefile in the bsmap directory as follows

                        original line "$(CC) $(FLAGS) $(LIBS) $(REF_MODE) $(OLIGOLEN) $^ -o $@ $(THREAD) -lz -lbam"

                        Change it as "$(CC) $(FLAGS) $(LIBS) $(REF_MODE) $(OLIGOLEN) $^ -o $@ $(THREAD) -lbam -lz"

                        replace the older version of samtools source directory with the new version - 0.1.17

                        I dont understand why changing the order of "-lz -lbam" to "-lbam -lz" solves this issue.

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                        • aniruddha.otago
                          Member
                          • Jan 2010
                          • 21

                          #27
                          Hi Guys,

                          Recently we have published a paper in Nucleic Acids research- "Comparison of alignment software for genome-wide bisulphite sequence data". you might find it useful to have a look at it.. http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/22344695

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                          • rskr
                            Senior Member
                            • Oct 2010
                            • 249

                            #28
                            Originally posted by aniruddha.otago View Post
                            Hi Guys,

                            Recently we have published a paper in Nucleic Acids research- "Comparison of alignment software for genome-wide bisulphite sequence data". you might find it useful to have a look at it.. http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/22344695
                            Doesn't look like you compared the accuracy of the mapping algorithms say by generating randomized cpg data. Any good reason why this wasn't done?

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                            • yxibcm
                              Junior Member
                              • Jun 2010
                              • 6

                              #29
                              The BSMAP version (v1.02/v1.2) used in this paper is a bit old. You may want to use the latest version (v2.5) to get an up-to-date comparison.

                              Originally posted by aniruddha.otago View Post
                              Hi Guys,

                              Recently we have published a paper in Nucleic Acids research- "Comparison of alignment software for genome-wide bisulphite sequence data". you might find it useful to have a look at it.. http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/22344695

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                              • rskr
                                Senior Member
                                • Oct 2010
                                • 249

                                #30
                                Originally posted by yxibcm View Post
                                The BSMAP version (v1.02/v1.2) used in this paper is a bit old. You may want to use the latest version (v2.5) to get an up-to-date comparison.

                                I guess old funky data "The accuracy went up when they trimmed it", has to get published somehow.

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