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  • le.nono
    Member
    • Sep 2012
    • 17

    #1

    Unmapped ratio very high on mouse genome

    Hi,
    My problem regards RNA-Seq data. I've downloaded public data (SAGE libs w/ 6 different samples from mouse liver ) to analyse using ArrayStudio. When I try to map them on the B38 mus musculus genom I have an unmapped read % of approximatly 95 % on all the samples!!! Quality scores are correct around 40 read length is correct (35 bp) but the base distrib QC is just very heterogenous, I don't understand why... this the first time I work on mouse data.Does anybody shared the same problem or have an idea please regarding the mapping and/or the base distrib?

    Thanks, LN
    Gene R' Us!
  • GenoMax
    Senior Member
    • Feb 2008
    • 7142

    #2
    You may want to do a FastQC run on the data first to check on the quality. The data you downloaded may be raw and you may need to trim/clean the data before doing analysis/alignments.

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    • le.nono
      Member
      • Sep 2012
      • 17

      #3
      They say there is a 16 bp adaptor on each read, but my reads are at the correct length 35 bp on the QC. Do I really need to trim them?
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      • le.nono
        Member
        • Sep 2012
        • 17

        #4
        Quality score histogrammes look very good for each sample.
        Gene R' Us!

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        • GenoMax
          Senior Member
          • Feb 2008
          • 7142

          #5
          Originally posted by le.nono View Post
          They say there is a 16 bp adaptor on each read, but my reads are at the correct length 35 bp on the QC. Do I really need to trim them?
          Is this supposed to be an "inline" adapter that is part of the actual sequence? Are you able to tell by looking at the reads?

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          • le.nono
            Member
            • Sep 2012
            • 17

            #6
            I don't think so the reads are very short. What do you have in mind?
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            • GenoMax
              Senior Member
              • Feb 2008
              • 7142

              #7
              Can you post a FastQC (or which ever kind of QC you used) graph of the base distribution?

              I was thinking that one way you would get 95% of reads unmapped is if the barcodes/adapter were still present in the reads (inline). Do you know if they have already been removed?

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              • le.nono
                Member
                • Sep 2012
                • 17

                #8
                no I don't have this information.

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                • le.nono
                  Member
                  • Sep 2012
                  • 17

                  #9
                  Maybe a better quality and size one.

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                  Last edited by le.nono; 06-17-2013, 08:25 AM.
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                  • GenoMax
                    Senior Member
                    • Feb 2008
                    • 7142

                    #10
                    All the sequences appear to be starting with exactly the same 4 nucleotides (GCCA). Is that a barcode?

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                    • SNPsaurus
                      Registered Vendor
                      • May 2013
                      • 525

                      #11
                      Are you able to map other SAGE data with your pipeline? Maybe it is not set up for such short tags.

                      The 4bp starting sequence is the cut site, right?

                      Also, are these ditags of 16 bp? Those would not map unless you split them first.
                      Providing nextRAD genotyping and PacBio sequencing services. http://snpsaurus.com

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                      • le.nono
                        Member
                        • Sep 2012
                        • 17

                        #12
                        I m gonna try to trim those 4bp first map the reads. I definitely need further informations on the reads... I dont much about those 16 bp adapter its just written in the abstract coming with the data. Do you say that what is display on the base distrib histrogrammes are ditags of 16 bp?
                        Last edited by le.nono; 06-17-2013, 10:44 AM.
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                        • SNPsaurus
                          Registered Vendor
                          • May 2013
                          • 525

                          #13
                          If it is SAGE data, then you should look here for an overview of the method:

                          (August 2004) With the advent of the human genome project, a vast amount of information about genes and gene structure is suddenly at our fingertips. But this information is limited. Every cell within an organism has the same genetic composition (with the exception of its gametes), and yet, obviously skin tissue is very different from


                          It is an older method meant to increase the sampling of transcripts with Sanger sequencing. There are some mouse mapping tools here:


                          But I suspect you'll want to find some newer RNA-Seq data that isn't SAGE based and you'll find it easier to go forward.
                          Providing nextRAD genotyping and PacBio sequencing services. http://snpsaurus.com

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                          • le.nono
                            Member
                            • Sep 2012
                            • 17

                            #14
                            Ok it s becoming clearer now. I really need these data I use so i m gonna stick to them even if it s harder. I m gonna try to look for in the literature some RNA Seq with SAGE preps I think its been done before what do you think?
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