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  • int11ap1
    Member
    • Jan 2014
    • 16

    #1

    Statistically validate number of exons and isoforms

    Hello to everybody,

    I was reading the following paper,

    Derrien, T; Johnson, R; Bussotti, G; Tanzer, A; Djebali, S; Tilgner, H; Guernec, G; Martin, D; Merkel, A; Knowles, DG; Lagarde, J; Veeravalli, L; Ruan, X; Ruan, Y; Lassmann, T; Carninci, P; Brown, JB; Lipovich, L; Gonzalez, JM; Thomas, M; Davis, CA; Shiekhattar, R; Gingeras, TR; Hubbard, TJ; Notredame, C; Harrow, J; Guigó, R (Sep 2012). "The GENCODE v7 catalog of human long noncoding RNAs: analysis of their gene structure, evolution, and expression.". Genome Research 22 (9): 1775–89
    which has the following figure:



    For B and C figures, they apply a t-test in order to know if coding and lncRNAs have significativelly different exon, intron and transcript lengths. However, in figures A and D, they do not mention any statistical analysis. Might that data (figures A and D) be analyzed using another t-test?

    Thanks.
    Last edited by int11ap1; 07-18-2014, 01:27 AM.
  • dpryan
    Devon Ryan
    • Jul 2011
    • 3478

    #2
    No, and they shouldn't have used a T-test with the other results in that figure (they should have used a Wilcoxon test).

    Subfigures A and D should be analyzed with ordered logistic regression.

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    • int11ap1
      Member
      • Jan 2014
      • 16

      #3
      Originally posted by dpryan View Post
      No, and they shouldn't have used a T-test with the other results in that figure (they should have used a Wilcoxon test).
      Because they are not normally distributed, right? What if I apply a log transformation? They should be nearly normal then.

      Could you be more specific about ordered logistic regression, please?

      Thanks for answering.
      Last edited by int11ap1; 07-18-2014, 02:34 AM.

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      • dpryan
        Devon Ryan
        • Jul 2011
        • 3478

        #4
        Yeah, log transforming them might make them normal enough.

        I'm not sure how much more specific I could be about ordered logistic regression. You can do that easily in R, if that's what you want to know.

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        • int11ap1
          Member
          • Jan 2014
          • 16

          #5
          Originally posted by dpryan View Post
          Yeah, log transforming them might make them normal enough.

          I'm not sure how much more specific I could be about ordered logistic regression. You can do that easily in R, if that's what you want to know.
          I do not understand how could I compare two populations just doing a regression...

          Another question, if I perform a Wilcoxon test for the other data and the two populations are significantly not the same, should I look at the median to see what population is more expressed?

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          • dpryan
            Devon Ryan
            • Jul 2011
            • 3478

            #6
            A T-test is a regression. An Anova is a regression. Most of the statistics you've ever done have been regressions, even if you didn't know it (in fact, a T-test and an ANOVA are just special cases of linear models).

            Regarding the Wilcoxon, yes, looking at the median would be a good way to go.

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