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  • tonup69
    Associate Professor
    • Apr 2011
    • 20

    #1

    TOPHAT2 vs RNA-STAR 2X the mapped %.

    Hello all. I have been working with some very clean RNAseq data generated from Drosophila and have come across a few issues. First of all, I am using our local install of GALAXY - forgive me, but I am only a part-time bioinformaticist! That being said, I have used this interface for about five years now, so I am comfortable. The main issue troubling me right now is that I can use TOPHAT2 for mapping and am able to generate differential gene expression output using the Bowtie/Cufflinks/Cuffmerge/Cuffdiff pipeline. The problem is that the mapping is VERY low (about 50-60% for any of the fastqsanger files). I am only using clean data trimmed to 200bp or less (Ion Proton) with quality >20 median score. The problem is, when I use RNA-STAR I get multiple issues in the pipeline (problems with cufflinks that end up being problems in Cuffdiff that I don't want to get into here). What I want to know is, why do I get >80% mapped reads (and higher) when I use RNA-STAR, but only about 50% mapped reads with TOPHAT2? Is there some reason for this?

    Thanks in advance. Working through this....
  • Brian Bushnell
    Super Moderator
    • Jan 2014
    • 2709

    #2
    TopHat is not very tolerant of errors in data. I'd recommend avoiding all of the Tuxedo pipeline where possible; I've always found it to be slow and unstable. Deseq and Edger seem to give more accurate results, anyway.

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    • tonup69
      Associate Professor
      • Apr 2011
      • 20

      #3
      Brian - I am just talking about mapping right now. Even if I switched to Deseq or Edger (which I could do on our local install) I still need a gaped aligner to map the sequence with first. Do you use RNA-STAR?

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      • tonup69
        Associate Professor
        • Apr 2011
        • 20

        #4
        Here are the actual numbers on the same fastqsanger file (trimmed to 200bp QS>20).

        Tophat2:
        Reads:
        Input: 39248980
        Mapped: 20971700 (53.4% of input)
        of these: 3246961 (15.5%) have multiple alignments (5659 have >20)
        53.4% overall read alignment rate.

        RNA-STAR:
        Started job on | Feb 15 12:26:35
        Started mapping on | Feb 15 12:26:38
        Finished on | Feb 15 12:35:13
        Mapping speed, Million of reads per hour | 274.36

        Number of input reads | 39248980
        Average input read length | 166
        UNIQUE READS:
        Uniquely mapped reads number | 32172637
        Uniquely mapped reads % | 81.97%
        Average mapped length | 164.84
        Number of splices: Total | 7873494
        Number of splices: Annotated (sjdb) | 0
        Number of splices: GT/AG | 7824667
        Number of splices: GC/AG | 46067
        Number of splices: AT/AC | 2760
        Number of splices: Non-canonical | 0
        Mismatch rate per base, % | 0.47%
        Deletion rate per base | 0.14%
        Deletion average length | 1.17
        Insertion rate per base | 0.24%
        Insertion average length | 1.15
        MULTI-MAPPING READS:
        Number of reads mapped to multiple loci | 5162521
        % of reads mapped to multiple loci | 13.15%
        Number of reads mapped to too many loci | 59135
        % of reads mapped to too many loci | 0.15%
        UNMAPPED READS:
        % of reads unmapped: too many mismatches | 0.00%
        % of reads unmapped: too short | 4.42%
        % of reads unmapped: other | 0.30%

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        • Brian Bushnell
          Super Moderator
          • Jan 2014
          • 2709

          #5
          Originally posted by tonup69 View Post
          Brian - I am just talking about mapping right now. Even if I switched to Deseq or Edger (which I could do on our local install) I still need a gaped aligner to map the sequence with first. Do you use RNA-STAR?
          Nope, I use BBMap I have heard good things about STAR, but I've never benchmarked it.

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          • Michael.Ante
            Senior Member
            • Oct 2011
            • 127

            #6
            Hi Tonup69,

            check your alignments with rseqc, especially the clipping profile will be interesting.
            Maybe your alignment rate with STAR is very good, but the alignment-length might be quite short...

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            • tonup69
              Associate Professor
              • Apr 2011
              • 20

              #7
              Well, its a nice thought, but we don't have either of those wrappers on our local install and I am not the admin for the box. I will bring it up, but I am limited to what we have on our server.

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