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  • vebaev
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    Yes Simon,
    the =Inf are coming from rows where one of the groups are 0 and other is some reads (sometimes 5 simetimes 500)

    I also found your post in other topic about these =Inf that if the last 2 columns the values are too big or close to zero I should discard these rows from further analysis?
    Last edited by vebaev; 08-19-2011, 12:43 AM.

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  • Simon Anders
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    Originally posted by vebaev View Post
    What about these genes that are 0 reads in one group and non-zero in the other group? I got =+Inf ot =-Inf? Should I took tham or discard them from the most diff.altered table?
    Thanks
    If you have 0 counts in one condition and hundreds of counts in other, this is most likely a valid signal, and DESeq should indicate this with a small p value. Of course, the fold change estimate is not to useful but that is a general problem if one of conditions has very low counts

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  • NicoBxl
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    Originally posted by vebaev View Post
    NicoBxl,

    I have tun on my 4 samples (2 controles and 2 treatment) deseq with binomial test and I got list.

    What about these genes that are 0 reads in one group and non-zero in the other group? I got =+Inf ot =-Inf? Should I took tham or discard them from the most diff.altered table?

    Thanks
    That's a tough question. Maybe check the p-value. What's the read count for the "other" group ?
    Last edited by NicoBxl; 08-18-2011, 11:30 PM.

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  • vebaev
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    NicoBxl,

    I have tun on my 4 samples (2 controles and 2 treatment) deseq with binomial test and I got list.

    What about these genes that are 0 reads in one group and non-zero in the other group? I got =+Inf ot =-Inf? Should I took tham or discard them from the most diff.altered table?

    Thanks

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  • vebaev
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    Yes but I wanted to take in consideration of how much a seq maps to a genome and deseq is not taking this into account?
    If I have seq with read counts 10 that maps in 2 location perfectly, and I want to see if location 1 is changes in samples, it does not mean that all 10 reads are coming from location 1, isn,t it?

    Or I'm somwhere wrong in my logic

    Anyway, I will run this with deseq to see the result!

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  • NicoBxl
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    Originally posted by vebaev View Post
    My data are not pure read counts, but rather a value that came from read counts normalized by the total library reads and how muuch times a read maps to a genome.
    So you should use raw reads with DESeq or edgeR. It seems the best solution to your problem.

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  • vebaev
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    My data are not pure read counts, but rather a value that came from read counts normalized by the total library reads and how muuch times a read maps to a genome.

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  • NicoBxl
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    If your data are HTS reads, they don't follow a normal distribution. You've to use a non-parametric test like the Wilcoxon Test or the Kruskal-Wallis Test.

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  • vebaev
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    Thanks a lot!

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  • chenyao
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    see wiki:
    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Normal_distribution.

    for simple, you can plot your data to see if it is symmetric and bell-shaped.

    but I doult it, most data didn't obey it. But it's good to see the distribution of your data at first.

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  • vebaev
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    Sorry for the stupid question but what it is mean by "normal distribution"

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  • chenyao
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    It's very simple, much more than deseq.

    you can use "sam" or "dchip" module.

    It depends on the distribution of your data. If it's normal distribution, the simplest method is t-test.

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  • vebaev
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    Poorly since I was using only deseq...

    But if there is no other way I will try to look for this, and try to find what R module can do this for me

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  • chenyao
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    Do you know "R"?

    It has many tools to use.

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  • vebaev
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    Thanks,
    do you know what sotfware tool to use? since I'm not good in statistics for this moderated t-test?

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