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  • Artur Jaroszewicz
    Member
    • Sep 2011
    • 45

    #1

    Galaxy Sanger Fastq Groomer frustration!

    How long is data expected to take to groom on Galaxy? I started grooming about 6 hours ago on two 20Gb data sets, and it's still working. I also started four sets (also 20Gb each) 28 hours ago, and nothing. Does anybody use this or have a faster way to process it?

    Btw, the grooming process is one that takes a fastq file and transforms the quality scores so that it can be put in to Cufflinks. I wouldn't expect this to take so long.
  • simonandrews
    Simon Andrews
    • May 2009
    • 870

    #2
    I guess that's going to depend on how overloaded your galaxy server is. You say you've got 6 datasets processing concurrently? Since grooming is going to be IO limited you're probably thrashing the disk which holds your sequences since you're reading and writing 240GB of data simultaneously. That can do really bad things to a server and may well take a while. I know we tend to get complacent about the volumes of data we work with, but 240GB is a serious amount of data to process (think of it as 400 CDs!) and trying to do it all at once may not go smoothly.

    Get your server admin to see what the machine is doing in case there's a problem.

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    • Artur Jaroszewicz
      Member
      • Sep 2011
      • 45

      #3
      Thanks Simon.
      I took off all but two of the data sets (20 Gb), and ran a simple Perl script on our machines to convert the data. Hopefully it's not rejected by Galaxy!
      A

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      • GenoMax
        Senior Member
        • Feb 2008
        • 7142

        #4
        Are you running this on the public galaxy server or your own local instance?

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        • Artur Jaroszewicz
          Member
          • Sep 2011
          • 45

          #5
          It's on the public server at PSU. Here's an update: after waiting for a couple days for the server to groom the .fq, I decided to look for an alternative. I found a Perl script that ended up doing a 20Gb file in 10 minutes. I think something might be wrong with their scripting. The files are uploading now.
          As an aside, here at the Pellegrini Lab at UCLA, we're planning on setting up a local instance on our servers, but it might take a while. Oh, deadlines..

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          • GenoMax
            Senior Member
            • Feb 2008
            • 7142

            #6
            There is a new disk quota that was recently instituted on the public instance of galaxy. You may have bumped up against that. See here: http://wiki.g2.bx.psu.edu/News/Galax...Usage%20Quotas

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            • Artur Jaroszewicz
              Member
              • Sep 2011
              • 45

              #7
              I thought it might have been that, but I had a maximum of about 120Gb in my history, and each data set at about 20Gb. Unless when it was processing the data, it added to my quota without updating what I see and bumped me.
              And unless I'm mistaken, that link says that the quotas are only for the Galaxy Test Instance, and only suggestions for storage space on the main instance. Maybe they're keeping track though.
              Thanks for your reply =]

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              • tnabtaf
                Member
                • Jan 2011
                • 53

                #8
                I traded emails with one of the Galaxy developers: The Groomer is slow, excruciatingly slow sometimes. It does, however, handle all the known corner cases, which most scripts don't need to worry about. It will run faster if you set "Do not summarize Input (faster)" under "Summarize input data" under advanced options, but could still be considered slow.

                Hope this helps!

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                • Artur Jaroszewicz
                  Member
                  • Sep 2011
                  • 45

                  #9
                  Thanks tnabtaf,
                  It definitely helps inasmuch as now I know not to use the groomer. It definitely seems more efficient to transform the data on out own, though maybe we don't think of as many possible problems with the formatting. Anyway, here's a link to the thread containing the Perl script I ultimately used: http://seqanswers.com/forums/showthr...groomer+script
                  Hopefully we'll have the Galaxy instance running on our servers soon, and we'll find a way to personalize the groomer.
                  For now, I'm choosing not to use Galaxy at all since I'm on a deadline. Thanks for all the help!
                  A

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                  • tnabtaf
                    Member
                    • Jan 2011
                    • 53

                    #10
                    This question is best asked on the Galaxy User mailing list:



                    Lots of experienced Galaxy users will see the question there.

                    For some reason Galaxy is not recognizing the files as FASTQ. You can manually override this by changing the file type, but that may or may not have the desired effect since there is something in the files that Galaxy appears not to like.

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                    • nilshomer
                      Nils Homer
                      • Nov 2008
                      • 1283

                      #11
                      Wikipedia has a description of the quality value ranges.

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                      • NGS-DFCI
                        Junior Member
                        • Jun 2013
                        • 2

                        #12
                        fastQ groomer

                        I am using galaxy in biocloud central to analyze my RNA-seq data. I have successfully transferred 4 datasets(biggest is 10GB) from S3 to galaxy. Then I tried to perform the fastQ groomer. But it said the job is waiting to run for a couple hours. Could someone tell me why the job can't start to run?
                        Thank you so much.

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                        • JackieBadger
                          Senior Member
                          • Mar 2009
                          • 385

                          #13
                          I would never use the public server for files over 1GB.
                          Install your own instance (its easy), and then follow instructions to get admin privileges, and install Fastq parallel groomer tool..much faster.

                          One other question...Why are you looking to groom these files?
                          I know MiSeq has gone back to the sanger fastq quality coding (which galaxy uses) which requires no grooming..
                          Maybe Hi-Seq hasn't?

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                          • NGS-DFCI
                            Junior Member
                            • Jun 2013
                            • 2

                            #14
                            fastQ groomer problem

                            The instance of Galaxy on the cloud behaves just like a local instance of Galaxy, not a public one

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                            • kevyin
                              Junior Member
                              • Jul 2011
                              • 2

                              #15
                              Originally posted by JackieBadger View Post
                              and install Fastq parallel groomer tool..much faster.
                              A colleague of mine wrote the parallel version.
                              I've made it a standalone script which you can use by itself now without Galaxy.



                              Cheers,
                              Last edited by kevyin; 09-16-2013, 08:46 PM.

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