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  • Blahah404
    Member
    • Dec 2011
    • 48

    Aligning RNA-Seq reads in peptide space

    I'm planning to do some cross-species comparative transcriptomics, with non-model plant (grass) species. I'll be aligning the reads to a closely related genome (same tribe), evolutionarily equidistant from the experimental species. As far as I can tell, the tools which are commonly used for aligning RNA-Seq reads do so in nucleotide space. Are there any tools which can work in peptide space? Or can anyone suggest a strategy using existing tools which would work for cross-species alignment?

    I'm not afraid to develop my own tools, but I don't want to do it if the tools are already there!

    Many thanks
  • mbblack
    Senior Member
    • Aug 2009
    • 245

    #2
    I have not had cause to use it in a very long time, but t-coffee is one sequence aligner that will align a DNA sequence given the constrant of underlying known protein coding sequences.

    I have no idea if anyone has adapted or applied it to batch processing a next-gen data set though.

    Michael Black, Ph.D.
    ScitoVation LLC. RTP, N.C.

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    • areyes
      Senior Member
      • Aug 2010
      • 165

      #3
      maybe tblastx could help as well

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      • mbblack
        Senior Member
        • Aug 2009
        • 245

        #4
        Again, I have no experience actually using these, but in my EndNote library a see

        transAlign - published in BMC Bioinformatics. 2005; 6: 156. This is a PERL script tool.
        MACSE - ("Multiple Alignment of Coding SEquences Accounting for Frameshifts and Stop Codons") published in 2011, PLoS ONE 6(9).

        I just don't know of anything that has been specifically applied to a batch alignment of a next-gen readset.
        Michael Black, Ph.D.
        ScitoVation LLC. RTP, N.C.

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        • Blahah404
          Member
          • Dec 2011
          • 48

          #5
          @mbblack thanks very much - tcoffee looks interesting. From what I can make out, it first indexes all the pairwise alignments between each pair of sequences. I think when comparing a short read to a whole genome this would take forever and possibly makes that approach unsuitable. Nevertheless I'll ask on their google group and see if anyone has adapted it.

          @areyes yeah, after I made the post I realised I should start by looking at BLAST and BLAT. I've been playing with BLAT using 454 reads, which seems to be working OK. I'll compare with tblastx too.

          In general I think tools for local alignment will be more likely to be applicable than those for multiple alignments.

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          • mbblack
            Senior Member
            • Aug 2009
            • 245

            #6
            If you find something that you could adapt, be sure to search a bit and see if it has been optimized further by someone other than the first or maintaining author. I cannot find the link, but there is an MPI parallel version of t-coffee around, for example.
            Michael Black, Ph.D.
            ScitoVation LLC. RTP, N.C.

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            • Blahah404
              Member
              • Dec 2011
              • 48

              #7
              The MACSE paper is really quite useful, thanks. Time to start testing tools!

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              • liruiradiant
                Junior Member
                • Apr 2013
                • 4

                #8
                Hi, Mbblack! I'm a new guy in bioinformation field. I see that you mentioned Endnote. Is there an equivalent of Endnote in Ubuntus please? Thanks

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                • Blahah404
                  Member
                  • Dec 2011
                  • 48

                  #9
                  @liruiradiant

                  1. nobody mentioned Endnote, but an excellent open-source alternative is Zotero (http://www.zotero.org).
                  2. you should start your own thread when you have a new question, otherwise very few people are likely to read it.

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                  • mbblack
                    Senior Member
                    • Aug 2009
                    • 245

                    #10
                    Originally posted by liruiradiant View Post
                    Hi, Mbblack! I'm a new guy in bioinformation field. I see that you mentioned Endnote. Is there an equivalent of Endnote in Ubuntus please? Thanks
                    I referenced some alignment tools I have in my Endnote reference library.

                    I do not know about any reference managers for Linux as the only things I use in Linux/UNIX are command line tools (I don't use any desktop software at all on my Linux boxes), sorry.
                    Michael Black, Ph.D.
                    ScitoVation LLC. RTP, N.C.

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                    • liruiradiant
                      Junior Member
                      • Apr 2013
                      • 4

                      #11
                      Thank you for your reply. Maybe I'll do the same with you: Have one lab computer running Linux and my laptop Windows for endnote. Sometimes it's just not so convenient. But it's a problem without solution I think. Thanks anyway!

                      Originally posted by mbblack View Post
                      I referenced some alignment tools I have in my Endnote reference library.

                      I do not know about any reference managers for Linux as the only things I use in Linux/UNIX are command line tools (I don't use any desktop software at all on my Linux boxes), sorry.

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                      • sphil
                        Senior Member
                        • Apr 2010
                        • 192

                        #12
                        Zotero is a good tool, also JabRef is available for both platforms (also for Mac)... simple but it will do the job as a reference mangager...Jabref also exports BibTex...

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