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  • tianyub836
    Member
    • Apr 2011
    • 23

    how to construct phylogenetic tree using SNPs

    hi,
    i am puzzled of how to construct phylogenetic tree using SNPs from re-sequence data.

    may i extract validated SNPs of all to generate a artificial sequence and import it to MEGA or other programes?

    any details will be appreciated!
  • zmartine
    Junior Member
    • Nov 2009
    • 4

    #2
    "may i extract validated SNPs of all to generate a artificial sequence and import it to MEGA or other programes?"

    That's exactly what you can do. It's not really even an artificial sequence, since the SNPs, by definition, are the informative sites that a phylogeny is based upon, i.e. all the other sequence would be is filler that is filtered out of by the programs.

    The only issue with just using the SNPs outside of a genomic context is that you will not know where they are in the codons and thus cannot use amino acid sequences for any analyse,s or know if a SNP represents a synonymous change (amino acid remains the same) or non-synonymous (changes amino acid sequence). Knowing if there is an amino acid change can be important for functional/medical genomics, for more complex codon-based models use to build phylogenies, and for selecting neutral (non-synonymous) changes to look at analyses using the molecular clock.

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    • themerlin
      Member
      • Feb 2010
      • 51

      #3
      I found this link the other day that constructs a phylogeny from SNPs in kmers:



      You have to ask the author for the source code, but it appears to work with both assemblies and raw sequence reads.

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      • tianyub836
        Member
        • Apr 2011
        • 23

        #4
        Originally posted by zmartine View Post
        "may i extract validated SNPs of all to generate a artificial sequence and import it to MEGA or other programes?"

        That's exactly what you can do. It's not really even an artificial sequence, since the SNPs, by definition, are the informative sites that a phylogeny is based upon, i.e. all the other sequence would be is filler that is filtered out of by the programs.

        The only issue with just using the SNPs outside of a genomic context is that you will not know where they are in the codons and thus cannot use amino acid sequences for any analyse,s or know if a SNP represents a synonymous change (amino acid remains the same) or non-synonymous (changes amino acid sequence). Knowing if there is an amino acid change can be important for functional/medical genomics, for more complex codon-based models use to build phylogenies, and for selecting neutral (non-synonymous) changes to look at analyses using the molecular clock.
        well, thanks.
        but will you give more details about constructing tree like how the SNPs and its position in chromosome are orgnized?

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        • tianyub836
          Member
          • Apr 2011
          • 23

          #5
          Originally posted by themerlin View Post
          I found this link the other day that constructs a phylogeny from SNPs in kmers:



          You have to ask the author for the source code, but it appears to work with both assemblies and raw sequence reads.
          that is out of my understanding

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          • colindaven
            Senior Member
            • Oct 2008
            • 417

            #6
            Would it make sense to generate n artificial sequences with the SNPs and their codon contexts for
            all strains of interest ?

            Alternatively, I guess SNPs can be used as characters in a parsimony based approach ? Has anyone
            tried this ?

            Lastly, this program may also be helpful.

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            • Bueller_007
              Member
              • May 2010
              • 16

              #7
              Originally posted by zmartine View Post
              "may i extract validated SNPs of all to generate a artificial sequence and import it to MEGA or other programes?"

              That's exactly what you can do. It's not really even an artificial sequence, since the SNPs, by definition, are the informative sites that a phylogeny is based upon, i.e. all the other sequence would be is filler that is filtered out of by the programs.
              That's only true for maximum parsimony. Maximum likelihood and Bayesian methods consider invariant sites.

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              • HerefordGuy
                Junior Member
                • Apr 2010
                • 6

                #8
                See http://www.pnas.org/content/early/2009/10/21/0904691106 for an example of using maximum parsimony to analyze SNP data.

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                • mm.perrineau
                  Member
                  • Sep 2012
                  • 12

                  #9
                  Hi,
                  No idea how construct phylogenetic tree using SNPs ???
                  MM

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                  • NGS group
                    Member
                    • Apr 2013
                    • 28

                    #10
                    The workflow for creating phylogenetic tree by SNPs

                    Dear all,

                    I will really appreciate if anyone would share their workflow for creating the phylogenetic tree by SNPs? Is there any commercial software that can do it?

                    Thank you very much!

                    Victor

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                    • Bueller_007
                      Member
                      • May 2010
                      • 16

                      #11
                      Haven't used it yet, but

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