Unconfigured Ad

Collapse
X
 
  • Time
  • Show
Clear All
new posts
  • Akis
    Junior Member
    • Aug 2015
    • 6

    #1

    Deseq2 question

    Hi all,

    As a newbie in seq analysis, i have a question..: i have imported my data to the Deseq2 package. My data have nothing to do with comparisons (they are coming from the same cell population). What i'm trying to identify is how to find out which genes characterise my cell population (highest expression). Do i have to observe the baseMean value? and if yes, what is the threshold i would use? what is for example a baseline for a baseMean value?

    I hope i am clear and not cause any confusion..

    Thanks!!
  • bioBob
    Member
    • Mar 2011
    • 72

    #2
    Hi,
    if you don't have a comparison, aka differential expression, the DE part of DESeq2, I am not sure why you would go that route.

    You have some other things to think about e.g. gene length and others that might inflate counts of gene 1 compared to gene 2 for two genes having the same cellular abundance.

    Once you determine how you are going to account for gene specific factors to affect a normalization gene by gene, simply sort after normalization and take the top N rows. If you aren't going to do this, you could do it all via grep|sort|head at the command line and skip R. Something like

    grep "gene_specific_prefix" HTSeq_count_file.out | sort -k 2,2nr | head -n N >results_file.txt

    So, for human, the gene specific prefix would be something like ENS. Or, since you are in R already, simply sort and take the top genes and get rid of the couple of lines for read stats at the bottom of the count stack. Instead of specifying a count (baseMean or I would do this myself via apply) threshold, I might choose the genes that make up the top 10% (or 20 or ...) of the total. cumsum in R.

    Comment

    • bioBob
      Member
      • Mar 2011
      • 72

      #3
      I should have stated, before you sort in R, make sure you have removed the bottom couple of rows.

      Comment

      • Akis
        Junior Member
        • Aug 2015
        • 6

        #4
        Thanks a lot for your reply. I got the first point and you are absolutely right that i don't need to insert it to R. One of the reason that comes to my mind is to merge the count matrices that come from the samples (eg the same timepoint). Specifically i have 8 samples from the same developmental timepoint. Of course i could merge them using a simple python function.
        For the second part (talking about the prefix), i lost you a bit (newbie ).
        My question is when i sort for the baseMean (eg >15000) i get 30 specific genes with high values..is this not a way to get a first glance at the data? even if i open the count matrices i get the same genes....

        Comment

        • bioBob
          Member
          • Mar 2011
          • 72

          #5
          Ahh, now you added new info, you have replicates AND a structure to your experiment.

          Yes, that would be ok.

          If you had only a single sample AND the counts were from HTSeq, you could get only the genes using grep on a string specific to your genes. For human genes using Ensembl id's, all names start with ENS.

          Since you have replicates AND an experiment, this would not be the best way to go. Your way is fine, although you still should consider gene length etc if you are going to make specific statements on abundance. Even then you will have a lot of unknown factors that make these statements difficult when comparing across genes rather than within a single gene but across experimental units.

          Comment

          • Akis
            Junior Member
            • Aug 2015
            • 6

            #6
            Perfect! Thanks a lot for your help.... it is true that i didn't include a lot of details. Actually we sorted cells (belonging to the same population), coming from 3 different development stages. What we need to do, is to characterize these populations with multiple markers. So, i assume that i don't have to come to any comparison. And you are right about the internal controls..we have housekeeping genes and also experimental RNA controls where we can normalize the gene values. The whole confusion was, what could i reply if somebody asked me what baseMean means? what units? otherwise i think im starting understanding the analysis.

            Comment

            Latest Articles

            Collapse

            • SEQadmin2
              Beyond CRISPR/Cas9: Understand, Choose, and Use the Right Genome Editing Tool
              by SEQadmin2



              CRISPR/Cas9 sparked the gene editing revolution for both research and therapeutics.1 But this system still showed severe issues that limited its applications. The most prominent were the heavy reliance on PAM sequences, delivery limitations, double-stranded breaks that prompt unintended edits and cell death, and editing inefficiency (both in targeting and in knock-in reliability).

              Despite this, “CRISPR helped turn genome editing from a specialized technique into
              ...
              07-31-2026, 11:01 AM
            • SEQadmin2
              Proteomic Platforms: How to Choose the Right Analytical Strategy to Improve Detection and Clinical Applications
              by SEQadmin2


              Proteomics platforms are evolving rapidly, with advances in mass spectrometry and affinity-based approaches expanding what researchers can detect and at what scale. As the field moves toward deeper proteome coverage and clinical applications, scientists face an increasingly complex landscape of tools. This article will explore how researchers are navigating these choices to find the right platform for their work.

              The systematic characterization of the human proteome has
              ...
              07-20-2026, 11:48 AM

            ad_right_rmr

            Collapse

            News

            Collapse

            Topics Statistics Last Post
            Started by SEQadmin2, 08-13-2026, 12:22 PM
            0 responses
            31 views
            0 reactions
            Last Post SEQadmin2  
            Started by SEQadmin2, 08-11-2026, 10:35 AM
            0 responses
            24 views
            0 reactions
            Last Post SEQadmin2  
            Started by SEQadmin2, 08-06-2026, 07:41 AM
            0 responses
            38 views
            0 reactions
            Last Post SEQadmin2  
            Started by SEQadmin2, 08-03-2026, 10:13 AM
            0 responses
            51 views
            0 reactions
            Last Post SEQadmin2  
            Working...