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  • pmiguel
    Senior Member
    • Aug 2008
    • 2328

    #1

    MiSeq vs HiSeq cluster densities

    Those of you have just gotten MiSeq and intending to use them to help dial in cluster densities for their HiSeqs, check your MyIllumina: Bulletin. Especially

    Cluster efficiency – Due to differences in the cluster generation chemistry, the MiSeq flowcells typically cluster at approximately 50% higher cluster density than the same library concentration loaded on a HiSeq flow cell (i.e. a library concentration that yields 750/mm2 clusters on a MiSeq will result in approximately 500/mm2 on a HiSeq).
    Can anyone support or contradict this? We just got the MiSeqs, so this would be mission critical for us. I guess we tend to load our HiSeq (or, previously, HiScanSQ) at 12 pM [wrong, it was loaded at 10 pM] (assay by SYBR-green KAPA qPCR with Illumina phiX as our concentration standard.) That tended to land us in the 600-800 Kclusters/mm^2 on the HiScanSQ. On the HiSeq, the phiX control lanes at 12 pM came in way low (450 K clusters/mm^2) whereas the libraries we titrated with them came in higher than expected: 700-1100K clusters/mm^2. But that could just be normal variation.

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    Phillip
    Last edited by pmiguel; 05-05-2012, 06:21 AM. Reason: Corrected loading concentration of phiX used.
  • Heisman
    Senior Member
    • Dec 2010
    • 534

    #2
    Originally posted by pmiguel View Post
    Those of you have just gotten MiSeq and intending to use them to help dial in cluster densities for their HiSeqs, check your MyIllumina: Bulletin. Especially



    Can anyone support or contradict this? We just got the MiSeqs, so this would be mission critical for us. I guess we tend to load our HiSeq (or, previously, HiScanSQ) at 12 pM (assay by SYBR-green KAPA qPCR with Illumina phiX as our concentration standard.) That tended to land us in the 600-800 Kclusters/mm^2 on the HiScanSQ. On the HiSeq, the phiX control lanes at 12 pM came in way low (450 K clusters/mm^2) whereas the libraries we titrated with them came in higher than expected: 700-1100K clusters/mm^2. But that could just be normal variation.

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    Phillip
    Our sequencing core has used a 1:1.4 ratio between MiSeq:HiSeq (similar to the 1:1.5 ratio you posted above), and they are considering going even higher in their recommendations. Not being part of the core I can't really give details beyond that.

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    • megalodon
      Member
      • Sep 2010
      • 20

      #3
      Hi Philip,

      we have followed Illumina's recommendation of using a 1:1.5 ratio between MiSeq:HiSeq and by doing that, we have been achieving roughly the same cluster densities on the HiSeq as for previous MiSeq runs for the same sample.

      Daniela

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      • RPiddock
        Lab Monkey
        • Jun 2011
        • 16

        #4
        We've been loading our MiSeq at 6pM and HiSeq at 10pM and getting good results, so very similar all round.

        Rachel

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