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  • camelbbs
    Member
    • Jun 2011
    • 49

    #1

    ask for idea about de novo genome

    Recently we sequenced an uncommon animal genome. I want to ask what can we do to that?
    Call SNP/Indel? seems can't, because there is no reference.

    compare with other species? or do comparative genomics.

    Anyone have good idea?
  • adaptivegenome
    Super Moderator
    • Nov 2009
    • 436

    #2
    What animal is it? And what motivated you guys to sequence it?

    Originally posted by camelbbs View Post
    Recently we sequenced an uncommon animal genome. I want to ask what can we do to that?
    Call SNP/Indel? seems can't, because there is no reference.

    compare with other species? or do comparative genomics.

    Anyone have good idea?

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    • camelbbs
      Member
      • Jun 2011
      • 49

      #3
      It's a kind of fish. So it's useless?

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      • adaptivegenome
        Super Moderator
        • Nov 2009
        • 436

        #4
        Originally posted by camelbbs View Post
        It's a kind of fish. So it's useless?
        I am curious why you guys sequenced it if you don't know what to do with it; however I am not saying that it is useless. You might (if the reads are long enough and coverage is good enough) assemble the sequence and compare to similar fish genomes, but without knowing more about the fish and the motivation for the project its hard to give you any advice.

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        • krobison
          Senior Member
          • Nov 2007
          • 734

          #5
          Even without a reference, you should be able to call SNPs and other variants -- you make your reference by de novo assembly & then call. Of course, you may overcall some variants that are really due to duplications, but still some useful information could be extracted.

          Did you have end-of-year budget to burn off or something? Does seem odd to sequence first and design the experiments after the fact.

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          • camelbbs
            Member
            • Jun 2011
            • 49

            #6
            Originally posted by krobison View Post
            Even without a reference, you should be able to call SNPs and other variants -- you make your reference by de novo assembly & then call. Of course, you may overcall some variants that are really due to duplications, but still some useful information could be extracted.

            Did you have end-of-year budget to burn off or something? Does seem odd to sequence first and design the experiments after the fact.
            Because we do PCR, race, etc to get the gene of that fish we want, tired of experiment with very limited info, we sequenced that fish and hope it can help improve the experiment. But now for the whole genome sequencing, we think it must have some better info we can get in large-scale analysis than separate bench work.
            Thanks anyway.
            The question: if we use the genome self as a reference, if like that, how to call variants, as they are the same things.
            Last edited by camelbbs; 06-14-2012, 05:17 PM.

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            • Zam
              Member
              • Apr 2010
              • 51

              #7
              There is a (our) published tool precisely for detecting variants from sequence data without using a reference, you could try that:

              Z Iqbal*, M Caccamo*, I Turner, P Flicek, G McVean.
              De novo assembly and genotyping of variants using colored de Bruijn graphs.
              Nat Genet. 2012 Jan 8;44(2):226-32. doi: 10.1038/ng.1028.



              Just give it the reads, and it will assemble variants. You can email me directly (zam AT well.ox.ac.uk) if you want more information, or check out the Google group (there is a link on the page I give above). It's important to be clear on what your goals are though.

              best

              Zam

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              • camelbbs
                Member
                • Jun 2011
                • 49

                #8
                Originally posted by genericforms View Post
                I am curious why you guys sequenced it if you don't know what to do with it; however I am not saying that it is useless. You might (if the reads are long enough and coverage is good enough) assemble the sequence and compare to similar fish genomes, but without knowing more about the fish and the motivation for the project its hard to give you any advice.
                do you have an idea about compare the two genomes? BLAST? Thanks!

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                • Zam
                  Member
                  • Apr 2010
                  • 51

                  #9
                  Again - Cortex will do it
                  cheers
                  Zam

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                  • camelbbs
                    Member
                    • Jun 2011
                    • 49

                    #10
                    Originally posted by Zam View Post
                    Again - Cortex will do it
                    cheers
                    Zam
                    Well..I'll try it. Thanks a lot!

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