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  • Eshchar
    Junior Member
    • Nov 2008
    • 3

    mRNA preparation for RNA-Seq

    Hi all,

    Regarding RNA preparation for mRNA seq (we are using Illumina), we are using Qiagen's Oligotex kit for poly-T selection. So far we have observed that in the final sequencing, approximately 40% of our short reads are ribosomal RNA derived.

    Can people perhaps share how much rRNA sequence is present in their Illumina RNA seq runs, and what sort of mRNA selection are they using?

    Also, are any users familiar with the of Ribo-minus rRNA depletion kit from Invitrogen?
  • doxologist
    Member
    • Jan 2009
    • 96

    #2
    we have some experience with Ribominus. However, your mRNA quality needs to be good for good removal. Fragments of rRNA without the consensus sequences will not be removed.

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    • Melissa
      Senior Member
      • Aug 2008
      • 124

      #3
      Originally posted by Eshchar View Post
      Hi all,

      Regarding RNA preparation for mRNA seq (we are using Illumina), we are using Qiagen's Oligotex kit for poly-T selection. So far we have observed that in the final sequencing, approximately 40% of our short reads are ribosomal RNA derived.

      Can people perhaps share how much rRNA sequence is present in their Illumina RNA seq runs, and what sort of mRNA selection are they using?

      Also, are any users familiar with the of Ribo-minus rRNA depletion kit from Invitrogen?
      I have tried Oligotex kit but not satisfied with the quality of cDNA synthesized (probably due to degradation). Have you tried two rounds of oligo dT priming using Dynabeads mRNA purification kit as recommended in the mRNA-seq protocol?

      Check out Brian's reply at the following link http://groups.google.com/group/solex...9ff861ee6089a2.

      Hope this helps.

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      • monad
        Member
        • May 2008
        • 40

        #4
        We've been dong several hundreds of mRNA-seq protocol using Dynabeads with extremely consistant and high quality output over last 16 months. Dynabeads is now packaged in Illumina mRNA-seq kit.

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        • Eshchar
          Junior Member
          • Nov 2008
          • 3

          #5
          Thank you all for the advice, we have ordered the newer version of the mRNA-Seq kit from Illumina. I think we'll try that first and then change one thing at a time if it is still not good enough.

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          • doxologist
            Member
            • Jan 2009
            • 96

            #6
            The illumina kit has worked good in our hands... with little ribosomal content.

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            • ieuanclay
              Member
              • Feb 2009
              • 27

              #7
              We tried the ribominus kit and it worked well - I would agree with doxologist though, you need good quality! It is a good alterantive if you want to remove rRNA whilst not avoiding not polyA'd RNAs (small RNAs etc...)

              Ieuan

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              • wiggy
                Junior Member
                • Jun 2009
                • 4

                #8
                We subjected RNA to 2 rounds of PolyA purification from Promega and also to 1 round of Ribominus.

                After analyzing via qRTPCR for both 18S and 28S rRNA we found the PolyA kit almost completely eliminated rRNA after 2 rounds.

                Next we created primers for some large genes near the extreme 5' region. Some of these had been previously verified as low expression levels via more 3' primers. We found these transcripts to be represented in the polyA 2x.

                Ribominus was not effective at all, perhaps because our rRNA's did not contain the consensus sequence.

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                • walle
                  Junior Member
                  • Sep 2009
                  • 1

                  #9
                  Hi wiggy

                  I have tried Ribominus and it does not work.. might be my RNA is degraded.. I have never analyzed 18S and 28S rRNA by qRTPCR. Could you please let me know how to do it?

                  Thanks
                  walle

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                  • Eshchar
                    Junior Member
                    • Nov 2008
                    • 3

                    #10
                    Hi,

                    Our latest batch of libraries looks much better, with library preps only using the default Illumina mRNA-Seq kits (and whatever beads they contain). rRNA content seemed to be only around 2%-4% for each of the six libraries. Seems the problem was only in the old sample prep method before the dedicated RNA-Seq kits came out, and 2 rounds of mRNA selection using magnetic beads did the trick. Can't comment on Ribominus then, at the moment we're still only looking in poly-adenylated RNA.

                    Thanks again for the advice.
                    Eshchar

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                    • wiggy
                      Junior Member
                      • Jun 2009
                      • 4

                      #11
                      My sequences were on ncbi so I just used it to design primers.

                      Or you could find highly conserved regions, create primers, sequence, and repeat until you get the whole sequence.

                      I believe this step is imperative. If you are using Poly A purification then any Rnase contamination or degradation before the last purification step will lead to sequences further from the A tail not being incorporated and thus not sequenced.

                      This is why we designed primers around the 5' end of the cdna.

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                      • chameleon
                        Junior Member
                        • Jul 2010
                        • 1

                        #12
                        rRNA depletion

                        Does anybody have experience for rRNA depletion from drosophila transcriptome?

                        Ribominus is said to be specific for human and mouse or yeast and bacteria. Is there anything that you may suggest?

                        Thanks!!

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                        • NextGenSeq
                          Senior Member
                          • Apr 2009
                          • 482

                          #13
                          Epicentre sells a RiboZero kit. They also sell library kits which are much cheaper than ILMNs. We just got both of these but haven't tried them yet.

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                          • arabidopsis
                            Member
                            • Oct 2010
                            • 13

                            #14
                            I used RiboMinus of Epicentre and got a weird result. RNA concentration after rRNA depletion was very low (predictable), but that low that I could hardly detect it by nanodrop. Does anyone know what rRNA depleted sample from HELA cells should look like (concentration, quality control values etc)? Can you detect RNA concentration after rRNA removal? I got about 20 ng/ul, but measurements are inconsistent and both 260:280 and 240/260 ratios are very low.

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                            • irit
                              Junior Member
                              • Oct 2010
                              • 5

                              #15
                              Have you tried running your ribo-depleted RNA on Bioanalyzer? You won't be able to get a proper concentration reading but you should be able to see the size distribution of your RNA.

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