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  • riehle
    Junior Member
    • Apr 2012
    • 7

    #1

    noisy/spiky peaks on bioanalyzer

    Hello!
    I am kind of new in this NGS-business, struggling with library prep.

    I prepared Testlibraries with ChIP'ed DNA using the TruSeq DNA Sample Prep Kit. I know that this kit is optimized for an DNA input of 1 µg, still I started with 10 ng.
    Several changes I made to the original protocol including:
    MinElute based purification
    50-fold diluted Adapters
    18-cycles of PCR
    Furthermore I did the PCR prior to gel-based size selection.
    From the gel I cut: 300-400 bp fractions (samples 4-6) and 200-300 bp fractions (samples 7-9 on bioanalyzer file) and purified the DNA with the MinElute Gel extraction Kit.
    The library was validated using the High sensitivity DNA Kit on the Bioanalyzer.
    I attached the bioanalyzer file. Please have a look at the samples 4-9.
    Why are these peaks to spiky and why do I have another smear band higher than the desired fraction....
    Advise is more than welcome...
    Thanxx
    Attached Files
  • TonyBrooks
    Senior Member
    • Jun 2009
    • 303

    #2
    The smear is a result of over PCR amplifcation. Drop the number of cycles.
    Also, the general noise on the Chip is probably because you've over-loaded it. We found the HS chip does strange things when you load more than 10ng. Estimated yield from sample 2 is >100ng. Overloaded wells also interfere with subsequent samples.
    I would dilute everything 1:20 and re-run the chip.
    Not sure about the spikes though. Did you follow Ethan's protocol?

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    • riehle
      Junior Member
      • Apr 2012
      • 7

      #3
      Well thanxx TonyBrooks
      I did not use Ethan's protocol.
      I followed mainly the TruSeq Protocol and used their reagents (see attachment)

      Even if I do overamplification of my samples resulting in this second smear band. How comes that i can not get rid of this much higher molecular weight band by gel out after PCR. Somehow this second smear band must be a result of the desired fraction???
      Attached Files

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      • TonyBrooks
        Senior Member
        • Jun 2009
        • 303

        #4
        So you gel-cut after PCR?
        What happens when you over PCR is that the primers begin to run out. When this happens the adapters at the end of your fragments can anneal to each other (rather than to primers) leaving a bubble in the middle where there is non complimentary sequence (it's highly unlikely that once denatured, the library will anneal back to it's compliment). These bubble fragments probably migrate at a normal speed through an Agarose gel, (after all they are still the correct bp size) but they will run slower on a Bioanalyser as bubbles and single-stranded DNA are an issue.
        It's not a major problem as long as you can quantify your library properly. They will still form clusters with the correct insert size on the flowcell. However, it's better to reduce the PCR cycles as your library looks cleaner on the Bioanalyser and you should get lower duplication from your sequencing.

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        • riehle
          Junior Member
          • Apr 2012
          • 7

          #5
          Yes I gel-cut after PCR.
          I have never heard of bubble fragments. So just to get this right:
          If I run out of primers, the adapter ligated DNA-fragments start to hybridize to each other resulting in this bubble-fragments. These bubble fragments migrate on the Bioanalyzer at a higher molecular weight compared to the fully complimentary fragments?
          Do you think reducing from 18 to 16 PCR cycles might already have an effect on to this or should I reduce to 10 or so PCR cycles.
          Thank you very much.



          Originally posted by TonyBrooks View Post
          So you gel-cut after PCR?
          What happens when you over PCR is that the primers begin to run out. When this happens the adapters at the end of your fragments can anneal to each other (rather than to primers) leaving a bubble in the middle where there is non complimentary sequence (it's highly unlikely that once denatured, the library will anneal back to it's compliment). These bubble fragments probably migrate at a normal speed through an Agarose gel, (after all they are still the correct bp size) but they will run slower on a Bioanalyser as bubbles and single-stranded DNA are an issue.
          It's not a major problem as long as you can quantify your library properly. They will still form clusters with the correct insert size on the flowcell. However, it's better to reduce the PCR cycles as your library looks cleaner on the Bioanalyser and you should get lower duplication from your sequencing.

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          • TonyBrooks
            Senior Member
            • Jun 2009
            • 303

            #6
            There are load of threads here on that subject as it's a common occurrence.

            Techniques and protocol discussions on sample preparation, library generation, methods and ideas

            Bridged amplification & clustering followed by sequencing by synthesis. (Genome Analyzer / HiSeq / MiSeq)

            Techniques and protocol discussions on sample preparation, library generation, methods and ideas


            There's also a link somewhere in there from Ethan again about how to optimise your PCR.

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