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  • greggiceton
    Junior Member
    • Jul 2012
    • 9

    #1

    Mass of DNA in a single colony

    Hi. We are toying with the idea of doing some whole genome work with E. coli colonies. Given that the Ion Torrent only requires an input library of 26 picomolar, I suspect that there will be sufficient DNA in a single E. coli colony. Does this sound reasonable? The Ion Torrent fragmentation kit requires an input of 50 - 100 ng only. Cheers.
  • andylemire
    Member
    • Jan 2014
    • 14

    #2
    26 pM as the input for emPCR, but you'll probably need a higher concentration to get a reliable estimate of concentration from a Bioanalyzer or Qubit. My rule of thumb was to have a dilution factor as a high-2 or low-3 digit number (say, 50 to 500). Too low and the concentration measurement might be unreliable. Too high and it's probably over amplified and therefore less representative of the starting material. The more concentrated, the better for long term storage/archival.

    But to your original question, it might be just enough. Life Tech posits ~0.017 pg DNA/E coli cell. Therefore ~3M cells for 50 ng @ 100% awesomeness, that's ~ 21 cell divisions [log_2(3M)]. On antibiotics, that's probably ~14-21 hours growth.

    So yeah, that might just work. Someone please check my math.

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    • SNPsaurus
      Registered Vendor
      • May 2013
      • 525

      #3
      I wonder how Life Tech arrived at that weight of DNA? I always think of 1 pg = 1 gigabase (and http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Genome_...pairs_.28bp.29 backs that up.) So 0.017 pg would be a 17 Mb genome, or nearly 4X more than it actually is (4.6 Mb). Plasmids? Replication? Anyway, it is possible (see http://jac.oxfordjournals.org/conten...kt494.full.pdf for a nextera protocol).
      Providing nextRAD genotyping and PacBio sequencing services. http://snpsaurus.com

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      • andylemire
        Member
        • Jan 2014
        • 14

        #4
        Yeah, I'll gladly take wikipidea sourced with a citation in Cytometry over a marketing claim by a vendor, even one I used to work for. (Plasmids alone wouldn't account for the difference, unless they've managed to cram about 1000 copies of a 13kb plasmid in there!)

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        • SNPsaurus
          Registered Vendor
          • May 2013
          • 525

          #5
          At first I thought, "must be all the mitochondrial DNA" then somewhat soon after realized that wasn't likely!
          Providing nextRAD genotyping and PacBio sequencing services. http://snpsaurus.com

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          • greggiceton
            Junior Member
            • Jul 2012
            • 9

            #6
            Excellent - thanks very much guys.

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