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  • JanaSEQ
    Junior Member
    • Oct 2013
    • 8

    #1

    Problem with AMPure purification

    Hi,
    Maybe someone has faced the same problem, as I am:

    I am using Agencourt AMPure XP to clean my PCR-amplicons from PCR-reaction mixture. I am using AMPure at 1x sample volume, to get rid of all the primers.
    In the last few months I started noticing, that the AMPure magnetic beads do not pellet properly on the tube wall after the addition of Elution Buffer (10 mM Tris-HCl, pH 8,5). The DNA concentrations of amplicons also decreased. I tried to elute my amplicons in MQ water and it worked well, I also obtained a bit higher DNA concentrations. But I am still wondering, what is wrong with the elution using EB. I checked my Ethanol and tried to use 80% instead of 70%, it did not change anything. I also tried to use different lab plastic, magnet plate and ordered fresh EB and AMPure. Nothing worked and I still got this „haze“ instead of properly pelleted beads.

    Maybe someone could help me, what am I doing wrong?
  • rnaeye
    Member
    • May 2011
    • 80

    #2
    Are you using the same PCR polymerase/buffer. I know that having proteins like BSA in the sample causes haze during Ampure cleanup. I cannot explain why your problem disappears with MQ water though.

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    • JanaSEQ
      Junior Member
      • Oct 2013
      • 8

      #3
      I am using Maxima HotStart PCR Master Mix. I tried to leave out ethanol purification steps (just to see, what happenes) and it worked - the haze was gone. But I can´t do that with my real samples..

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      • bilyl
        Member
        • Aug 2013
        • 52

        #4
        Originally posted by JanaSEQ View Post
        Hi,
        Maybe someone has faced the same problem, as I am:

        I am using Agencourt AMPure XP to clean my PCR-amplicons from PCR-reaction mixture. I am using AMPure at 1x sample volume, to get rid of all the primers.
        In the last few months I started noticing, that the AMPure magnetic beads do not pellet properly on the tube wall after the addition of Elution Buffer (10 mM Tris-HCl, pH 8,5). The DNA concentrations of amplicons also decreased. I tried to elute my amplicons in MQ water and it worked well, I also obtained a bit higher DNA concentrations. But I am still wondering, what is wrong with the elution using EB. I checked my Ethanol and tried to use 80% instead of 70%, it did not change anything. I also tried to use different lab plastic, magnet plate and ordered fresh EB and AMPure. Nothing worked and I still got this „haze“ instead of properly pelleted beads.

        Maybe someone could help me, what am I doing wrong?
        The "haze" sometimes occurs if you incubate the bead mixture for too long. I've seen it a lot but only when I do "in-bead" enzymatic reactions and cleanup afterward with SPRI buffer (PEG/NaCl). I've also seen it if I overdry my beads. Maybe something to think about.

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        • JanaSEQ
          Junior Member
          • Oct 2013
          • 8

          #5
          Thanks bilyl!
          I have tried different incubation times. I have also tried to elute amplicons right after I removed ethanol and also tried to let the beads dry completely, before I added the elution buffer. I did not notice any changes.

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          • silviap
            Junior Member
            • Aug 2014
            • 3

            #6
            I' m using AMPure on a Beckman Platform for many years and I used water MQ as elution buffer without any problem. Are you using the original magnet plate?

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            • JanaSEQ
              Junior Member
              • Oct 2013
              • 8

              #7
              I am using DynaMag magnet plate (Life Technologies). I am not using MQ water, because sequencing company where we send our samples prefers PCR amplicons in Tris-HCl buffer.

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              • dtm2451
                Junior Member
                • Mar 2013
                • 9

                #8
                I'm not certain what might be going on here, but if MQ seems to work for the elution, could you just elute in water and then dilute in elution buffer?

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                • JanaSEQ
                  Junior Member
                  • Oct 2013
                  • 8

                  #9
                  Thank you Dan (dtm2451)!

                  I will try this out.

                  But I still would like to know, what could have happned with the purification. My last idea is, that maybe it´s the hot weather, that causes such abnormalities (air conditioner in my lab does not work properly and it is up to 30C/86F) But i refrigirate Ampure (and then bring it to room temperature immediately before using) I also tried to refrigerate ethanol and elution buffer, unfortunately it did not help.

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                  • JanaSEQ
                    Junior Member
                    • Oct 2013
                    • 8

                    #10
                    My problem seems to be gone now! During last few Ampure purifications I did not notice haze any more. I did not change anything and so I think the haze was a result of way too hot working conditions. Fortunately is summer over now!

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                    • dtm2451
                      Junior Member
                      • Mar 2013
                      • 9

                      #11
                      My lab also gets fairly hot in the Summer due to inefficient AC. Perhaps that was the issue as I'm no longer having SPRI trouble either. I don't like the heat explanation... I really don't get why that would inhibit bead binding, but it might be true. Either way, I'm glad you are no longer having issues either!

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                      • docphil
                        Junior Member
                        • Aug 2014
                        • 8

                        #12
                        My Lab uses AMPure beads at 0.7x to remove primer-dimer and any junk below our target after barcoding and final pooling for MiSEQ. We elute into TE and then run the eluted DNA through a QiaQuick spin column to remove any residual beads. You can also adjust the amount of EB you spin through the column if you need a higher DNA concentration. Might be a bit redundant but hopefully it helps!

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