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  • westerman
    Rick Westerman
    • Jun 2008
    • 1104

    #16
    I don't recognize the 'MAXINFO' parameter. Perhaps that is the problem?

    In any case was does your trimLog say? Posting the first 10 lines could be useful.

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    • westerman
      Rick Westerman
      • Jun 2008
      • 1104

      #17
      ... And I answered my own question about MAXINFO. It is a (newer) parameter that I don't use. However the manual I am looking at says that there are only two numbers associated with MAXINFO: <targetLength>:<strictness> You seem to have three numbers 0 ... 40 ... 0.5. That could be a problem.

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      • trimmoMe
        Junior Member
        • Sep 2015
        • 2

        #18
        that solved it...
        Thanks so much weterman!!

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        • FSeq
          Junior Member
          • Sep 2015
          • 1

          #19
          Originally posted by tonybolger View Post
          It's a phred score

          Historically, the illumina pipeline occasionally created reads with one (or more rarely two) N base-calls at the start, and more often, a set of trailing B phred quality scores at the end. N-base calls are treated as zero phred score, and B are quality 2, so by trimming both ends for all scores below 3, these artefacts are removed.
          Does that mean that if we do LEADING:3 TRAILING:3 we only remove those artifacts? So, if we want to remove the bases with a phred score below 34, for example, we should write LEADING:34 TRAILING:34? What is the accepted phred score to keep bases? I noticed that for SLIDINGWINDOW, the parameters are 4:15, but I wondered if 15 was not too low as quality score? Thanks a lot!

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          • westerman
            Rick Westerman
            • Jun 2008
            • 1104

            #20
            Originally posted by FSeq View Post
            Does that mean that if we do LEADING:3 TRAILING:3 we only remove those artifacts? So, if we want to remove the bases with a phred score below 34, for example, we should write LEADING:34 TRAILING:34? What is the accepted phred score to keep bases? I noticed that for SLIDINGWINDOW, the parameters are 4:15, but I wondered if 15 was not too low as quality score? Thanks a lot!
            It would depend on your application. Trimming, in general, is only required for de novo work -- assembly -- and not for mapping since mapping programs will tend to drop reads or parts of reads that do not match because of poor quality. Even some de novo assembly programs -- Mira comes to mind -- want untrimmed reads.

            With that said, I would lead/trail remove quality 2 or less and slide window at the default 15. That will be a good starting point for most applications -- gets rid of the really bad stuff without knocking out potentially useful bases.

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            • Gigiux
              Junior Member
              • Nov 2015
              • 4

              #21
              Dear all,
              I am new to NGS and I have the kind of same problem as trimmoME 19/7/15.
              I am applying trimmomatric to trim fastaq files by quality and to remove the adapters. I have two paired files seq1.1.fq and seq1.2.fq with nextera adapters so I ran the following command:
              java -jar trimmomatic-0.33.jar PE -threads 16 -phred64 seq1.1.fq seq1.2.fq pairedOutup1 pairedOutup2 unpairedOutup1 unpairedOutup2 ILLUMINACLIP:NexteraPE-PE.fa:2:30:10:1:true LEADING:5 TRAILING:5 SLIDINGWINDOW:4:15 MINLEN:36

              The command is executed with the following display:
              Using PrefixPair: 'AGATGTGTATAAGAGACAG' and 'AGATGTGTATAAGAGACAG'
              Using Long Clipping Sequence: 'GTCTCGTGGGCTCGGAGATGTGTATAAGAGACAG'
              Using Long Clipping Sequence: 'TCGTCGGCAGCGTCAGATGTGTATAAGAGACAG'
              Using Long Clipping Sequence: 'CTGTCTCTTATACACATCTGACGCTGCCGACGA'
              Using Long Clipping Sequence: 'CTGTCTCTTATACACATCTCCGAGCCCACGAGAC'
              ILLUMINACLIP: Using 1 prefix pairs, 4 forward/reverse sequences, 0 forward only sequences, 0 reverse only sequences
              Input Read Pairs: 947710 Both Surviving: 0 (0.00%) Forward Only Surviving: 0 (0.00%) Reverse Only Surviving: 0 (0.00%) Dropped: 947710 (100.00%)
              TrimmomaticPE: Completed successfully

              However all the output files are completely empty.

              The first lines of the input are:
              {seq1.1.fq}
              @M03595:11:000000000-AG58B:1:1101:16029:1738 1:N:0:26
              ATTGTTAATCGTAAAGCAATGTTCATTCCGATTGTGGCTGTTGCAAGTTTTATGCTTGTAGGTTATGCTGCAACCGATAAAGAAATGCCGGAAATTAGATCTAATCAAATTGAAGTTC
              +
              1>A1AF33DD1AA113B11B1GGE3FGEF00EEAG20AFCGH1A111FGGH2G21FHBGB21FG1F11F1101BB//E//1@100D1@B/////BG111BBG11FE111BG111BFGE
              @M03595:11:000000000-AG58B:1:1101:14217:1754 1:N:0:26
              GTTGGCCATAAGGCTGTTGGTGCGATAGTTAATAATGTGATGGTTCCGATCGATACAAAATTAAATACGGGTGATGTCGTAGAAATCAAGACAAATAAACAGTCACAG
              +
              1AA11@11C1111BF1GG11A0100A00DF22D22D2D22D21BD1B//B///A/A1110BG111F2A///>//FBFFAFA//21BB1111>000B111@10BF1@11
              @M03595:11:000000000-AG58B:1:1101:13810:1764 1:N:0:26
              GTTGAGACTGTGGATGGTATCAGCGGGTATTGCATGAGTGAGTTTATAAAACTCTGTTAG
              +
              ...

              {seq1.2.fq}
              @M03595:11:000000000-AG58B:1:1101:16029:1738 2:N:0:26
              TTACTTCAATTTGTTTATTTCTAATTTCCGGCATTTCTTTATCGGTTGCAGCATAACCTACAAGCATATAACTTGCAACAGCCACAATCGGAATGAACATTGCTTTACGATTAACAAT
              +
              111>>D@31BDF33BB333BAB33DFG3A00A0AFGDGGH2FEA0BE/01110B1111D1A111/0D1222BDG1111B000>0B0/B1////B@11@1BF11GHHFE//FG?1@11B
              @M03595:11:000000000-AG58B:1:1101:14217:1754 2:N:0:26
              CTGTGACTGTTTCTTTGTCTTGATTTCTTCTACTTCACCCGTATTTAATTTTGTTTCTATCGGTTCCTTCACATTATTAACTATCGCTCCAACTGCCTTATGGCCAAC
              +
              1>1>13BB1FDF3BBG3BAFG13DFGAF333333D331AA0B0BFG22DDGH2B0B222DA/////12DA1A2DF1DG22AFDGE//0A>11100@0BD1B11/01/>
              @M03595:11:000000000-AG58B:1:1101:13810:1764 2:N:0:26
              CTAACAGAGTTTTATATTCTCACTCATGCAATACCCGCTGATACCATCCACATTCTCAAC
              +

              What might be the issue? maybe the quality is so low that all the sequences are removed?
              Thank you.

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              • GenoMax
                Senior Member
                • Feb 2008
                • 7142

                #22
                Have you checked the FastQC profile for these samples? How did they look?

                When something like this happens always start with no or minimal filters/restrictions and see if you get a result. Then start adding filters in afterwards.

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                • mastal
                  Senior Member
                  • Mar 2009
                  • 666

                  #23
                  I suspect the problem is the -phred64 setting.

                  I think that if you have samples prepared using the Nextera kits, Illumina had switched to -phred33 quality scores by then.

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                  • mastal
                    Senior Member
                    • Mar 2009
                    • 666

                    #24
                    Also the order of your output files is incorrect.

                    Trimmomatic will give you the output files in the following order - forward_paired, forward_unpaired, reverse_paired, reverse_unpaired.

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                    • kimseonw
                      Junior Member
                      • Oct 2015
                      • 2

                      #25
                      Hello. Would you help me to set options for trimmomatic equivalent to fastq_quality_filter -q 20 -p 75. I like to remove reads with less than 75% of Q20 as well as adapter while maintaining paired end. Thanks much.
                      Last edited by kimseonw; 11-24-2015, 09:57 AM.

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                      • mastal
                        Senior Member
                        • Mar 2009
                        • 666

                        #26
                        Have a look at the manual.

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                        • kimseonw
                          Junior Member
                          • Oct 2015
                          • 2

                          #27
                          mastal. Sure I do. My understanding is reads containing below certain score can be removed but minimum percentage of certain score may not be removed by Trimmomatic, and I'd like to make sure. Thanks again!

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                          • ebustosc
                            Junior Member
                            • Oct 2018
                            • 1

                            #28
                            question

                            Originally posted by westerman View Post
                            ... And I answered my own question about MAXINFO. It is a (newer) parameter that I don't use. However the manual I am looking at says that there are only two numbers associated with MAXINFO: <targetLength>:<strictness> You seem to have three numbers 0 ... 40 ... 0.5. That could be a problem.
                            You could tell me: how did you solve it?
                            I have all three parameters and the manual only talks about two.
                            When I enter the script it leaves me single base sequences

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