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  • Tom Bair
    Member
    • Oct 2008
    • 28

    newbler background

    Does anyone have any resources for better understanding newbler?

    I have tried to find a primary publication on it but get swamped with papers that are just talking about using it not how it works.

    Has any paper/ white paper been published that describes how newbler works?

    Thanks
  • strob
    Member
    • Nov 2008
    • 84

    #2
    same problem here

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    • flxlex
      Moderator
      • Nov 2008
      • 412

      #3
      This publication gives at least a general description, not too technical:

      Assessing the feasibility of GS FLX Pyrosequencing for sequencing the Atlantic salmon genome.
      Quinn NL, Levenkova N, Chow W, Bouffard P, Boroevich KA, Knight JR, Jarvie TP, Lubieniecki KP, Desany BA, Koop BF, Harkins TT, Davidson WS.
      BMC Genomics. 2008 Aug 28;9:404. http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/18755037

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      • hlu
        Member
        • Jan 2009
        • 32

        #4
        Originally posted by Tom Bair View Post
        Does anyone have any resources for better understanding newbler?

        I have tried to find a primary publication on it but get swamped with papers that are just talking about using it not how it works.

        Has any paper/ white paper been published that describes how newbler works?

        Thanks
        I am not aware of any publication from 454/Roche on Newbler software.

        However, Newbler (or officially called "GS De Novo Assembler") has very thick manual, which gives lots of detailed information on the software. You might want to look up that first to see details.

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        • hlu
          Member
          • Jan 2009
          • 32

          #5
          Originally posted by flxlex View Post
          This publication gives at least a general description, not too technical:

          Assessing the feasibility of GS FLX Pyrosequencing for sequencing the Atlantic salmon genome.
          Quinn NL, Levenkova N, Chow W, Bouffard P, Boroevich KA, Knight JR, Jarvie TP, Lubieniecki KP, Desany BA, Koop BF, Harkins TT, Davidson WS.
          BMC Genomics. 2008 Aug 28;9:404. http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/18755037
          Things are moving fast. This paper obviously is outdated.

          Titanium shotgun is 400bp average length per read, 500 MB per run.

          Titanium paired end 3kb, 8kb 20kb is going to be out soon. math all changed with Titanium.

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          • Tom Bair
            Member
            • Oct 2008
            • 28

            #6
            Have the big manual for the newbler stack (gsAssembler et al.) but it deals with running the software, not how it runs. More interested in algorithm than implementation. Thanks for the suggestion though.

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            • hlu
              Member
              • Jan 2009
              • 32

              #7
              Originally posted by Tom Bair View Post
              Have the big manual for the newbler stack (gsAssembler et al.) but it deals with running the software, not how it runs. More interested in algorithm than implementation. Thanks for the suggestion though.

              I see. There is not a lot of public information on the algorithm in the past.

              I have attended presentation by Newbler bioinformatics developers in the past. My understanding of this algorithm is that it is based on heuristic intitial index look up up (similar to kmer, or blast algorithm type), then find the the most promising local regions for full blown dynamic programming local alignment.

              The original 454 scientific advisor on Newbler was Gene Myers, who was chief at Celera Genomics for the original Celera assembly software, and one of original author of NCBI blast. Newbler originally got a lots of advice and influence of design from Gene Myers.

              The current 454 chief on Newbler design is James Knight, director of 454's Bioinformatics Development. One important background, Knight was Ph.D. graduate student of Gene Myers decades ago. Knight gave talk recently at AGBT meeting on Newbler and if you can get hold of his slides there, there might be more information there.

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              • Tom Bair
                Member
                • Oct 2008
                • 28

                #8
                Good information thanks

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                • Soni
                  Member
                  • Oct 2009
                  • 11

                  #9
                  Newbler manual

                  Does anyone have a copy of the newbler/GS de novo assembler software user manual? I can't find one on the internet...Cheers.

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                  • bio-x
                    Member
                    • Nov 2008
                    • 18

                    #10
                    Originally posted by Soni View Post
                    Does anyone have a copy of the newbler/GS de novo assembler software user manual? I can't find one on the internet...Cheers.
                    how to send it to you?

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                    • seb567
                      Senior Member
                      • Jul 2008
                      • 260

                      #11
                      You can read the supplementary methods of the 454 paper. Newbler is described a little there.



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                      • flxlex
                        Moderator
                        • Nov 2008
                        • 412

                        #12
                        In the Materials and Methods section of this paper:

                        Quinn et al, 2008: Assessing the feasibility of GS FLX Pyrosequencing for sequencing the Atlantic salmon genome


                        there is a (limited) description of how newbler works. Newbler stands for 'new assembler', by the way (so they told me).


                        flxlex

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