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  • ypsd
    Junior Member
    • Mar 2010
    • 1

    #1

    How good bowtie can map SOLiD data?

    I tried the following command to map the attached fq file (single end, ChIP-seq).

    bowtie -C -p $threads -n 3 -e 160 -a -m 1 --best --strata $BOWTIE2_INDEX/hg19_c s_6.fq -S s_6n.sam 2>&1 | tee s_6n.log

    The mappable reads are of only 35%.

    # reads processed: 2500
    # reads with at least one reported alignment: 885 (35.40%)
    # reads that failed to align: 1376 (55.04%)
    # reads with alignments suppressed due to -m: 239 (9.56%)
    Reported 885 alignments to 1 output stream(s)

    The following command gives 38% (as -e is large)

    bowtie -p 8 -C -m 10 -l 27 -n 3 -e 950 -k 1 $BOWTIE_INDEX/hg19_c s_6.fq -S s_6.sam 2>&1 | tee s_6.log
    # reads processed: 2500
    # reads with at least one reported alignment: 972 (38.88%)
    # reads that failed to align: 1275 (51.00%)
    # reads with alignments suppressed due to -m: 253 (10.12%)
    Reported 972 alignments to 1 output stream(s)

    But supposedly, SOLiD pipeline should be able map this file for over 50%. Does anybody know how good bowtie is to map SOLiD files? Are there any other parameters that can improve the results?

    I see that people said, bfast is better than bowtie for default parameters. By tuning the parameter, can the results of bowtie be improved? Thanks!

    http://seqanswers.com/forums/showpos...28&postcount=3
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  • Jean
    Member
    • Nov 2008
    • 37

    #2
    We've mapped SOLiD RNAseq data with several mappers (Bowtie, BWA, bfast) and never got above 25-35% mapped. Others we have spoken to are getting similar results (or worse).

    Would be curious to know if anyone has mapped better.

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    • iamli
      Junior Member
      • Feb 2012
      • 1

      #3
      we mapped SOLiD with low mapped rate too!

      we mapped SOLiD with low mapped rate too!
      I used tophat to analyse it ! They are colorspace pair end reads.
      Originally posted by Jean View Post
      We've mapped SOLiD RNAseq data with several mappers (Bowtie, BWA, bfast) and never got above 25-35% mapped. Others we have spoken to are getting similar results (or worse).

      Would be curious to know if anyone has mapped better.

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      • kopi-o
        Senior Member
        • Feb 2008
        • 319

        #4
        I have mapped 70-80% with BioScope for some SOLiD RNA-seq data (paired or not). But in many cases also much less. With Bowtie maybe 50% in the best cases.

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        • pmiguel
          Senior Member
          • Aug 2008
          • 2328

          #5
          I was talking to someone the other day who said they got >50% mapping with Novoalign. If I recall correctly. Actually they seemed to read SeqAnswers, so maybe they would chime in?

          --
          Phillip

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          • morellr
            Junior Member
            • Mar 2010
            • 5

            #6
            I have 3 RNA-seq libraries generated on Solid5500. 64%-72% of the reads mapped with Lifescope.

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            • brentp
              Member
              • Apr 2010
              • 72

              #7
              I got best results with -v1 -m1 with bowtie on colorspace.

              run bowtie then bfast on colorspace reads. Contribute to brentp/bowfast development by creating an account on GitHub.

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              • gringer
                David Eccles (gringer)
                • May 2011
                • 845

                #8
                We've been getting 30-50% mapping for SOLiD4 reads using Bowtie. It has been as low as ~9% for a very low-read sample (~400k reads multiplexed in with other samples totalling ~400M reads).

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                • hajime
                  Member
                  • Mar 2011
                  • 14

                  #9
                  Based on my mapping results,the same RNA-seq sample mapped by tophat and lifescope got ~50% and ~80% mappable reads, respectively, even we have used the additional ECC primer.

                  I guess the Refcor module in lifescope may improve the mappable rate.
                  Yi John Huang (PhD student)
                  886-3-2118800 ext. 3731
                  Graduate Institute of Biomedical Science, Chang Gung University

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                  • gringer
                    David Eccles (gringer)
                    • May 2011
                    • 845

                    #10
                    sure, the process used by Lifescope (which includes end clipping) increases the mappable reads. That doesn't necessarily mean it's a better result -- I can increase the sensitivity of a clinical test to 100% by always reporting a positive result.

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                    • colindaven
                      Senior Member
                      • Oct 2008
                      • 417

                      #11
                      For human exome reads we generally get the following figures:

                      Bowtie ~35%
                      BWA 0.5.x ~40%
                      Clcbio ~50-60%
                      NovoalignCS ~55-65% *
                      Lifescope ~70-80% *



                      *use end clipping.
                      Iteratively trimmed reads are still very useful, provided you don't make them too short.

                      Bowtie1 is not that useful for long reads, as it only allows max 3 mismatches in the seed. Apparently more mismatches are necessary for useful mapping of Solid data as said by someone about using bwa successfully.

                      As discussed here before, % alignments isn't really the best quality criterion for an aligner. We prefer NovoalignCS to date based on clean alignments and SNPs called versus the others via a standard pipeline.

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                      • carmeyeii
                        Senior Member
                        • Mar 2011
                        • 137

                        #12
                        So sad! I have been tweaking the parameters on Bowtie to get some huge runs to map decently, but so far the max I've gotten is 3% using -l 17 -n 3 !!!! Do you think it might be better to use -v ?

                        Seeded quality full-index search: 16:45:26
                        # reads processed: 60132812
                        # reads with at least one reported alignment: 1882083 (3.13%)
                        # reads that failed to align: 58250729 (96.87%)
                        Reported 4232170 paired-end alignments to 1 output stream(s)
                        Time searching: 16:45:30
                        Overall time: 16:45:30

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