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  • AmitL
    Member
    • Aug 2011
    • 36

    #1

    Understanding paired-end SOLiD

    Hello everyone,
    I am working with paired-end SOLiD data, and I am not sure how to handle it.

    1) What exactly is the difference between the F3 and F5 reads? Is the F5 reversed?

    2) I'm using BWA for the analysis. How do I use it with paired-end? In the documentation it says 'file 1' and 'file 2', but I don't know which is which.
    I have tried to run it both ways and in both times I got very few variants - 3000, 5000 while expecting 50000.
    I have a color-space reference index, and I used the -c parameter in the alignment. Am I missing something?

    3) Does the csfasta conversion work differently with paired-end data?

    Thanks a lot,
    Amit

    =]
  • gringer
    David Eccles (gringer)
    • May 2011
    • 845

    #2
    1) What exactly is the difference between the F3 and F5 reads? Is the F5 reversed?
    They are strand-specific reads. For the same RNA sequence, they will map in different directions to each other.

    I think the 5' read is reverse and done first, so if you're doing an analysis taking reads in the usual order you need to specify RF orientation in the mapping program (I'm not very sure on this point).

    3) Does the csfasta conversion work differently with paired-end data?
    Nope. You shouldn't do this conversion with either. Map in colour-space and let the mapping tool give you the equivalent base-space sequence.

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    • AmitL
      Member
      • Aug 2011
      • 36

      #3
      Thank you very much!

      Do you run such analyses with BWA?

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      • gringer
        David Eccles (gringer)
        • May 2011
        • 845

        #4
        No, I haven't [yet] bothered with looking at another program. While I might get a higher proportion of mapped reads, I've got enough problems working with error in the reads I have from Bowtie.

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        • AmitL
          Member
          • Aug 2011
          • 36

          #5
          But... Bowtie does not handle color-space... or does it?

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          • gringer
            David Eccles (gringer)
            • May 2011
            • 845

            #6
            Bowtie can do color-space, Bowtie2 cannot (and is not likely to in the future).

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            • AmitL
              Member
              • Aug 2011
              • 36

              #7
              ~bump~
              Does anyone work with BWA on SOLiD paired-end data?

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              • nilshomer
                Nils Homer
                • Nov 2008
                • 1283

                #8
                BWA does not support paired end reads with SOLiD.

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                • AmitL
                  Member
                  • Aug 2011
                  • 36

                  #9
                  I know the new version does not work with color-space.
                  Are you saying that it's true for the older versions too?

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                  • nilshomer
                    Nils Homer
                    • Nov 2008
                    • 1283

                    #10
                    The new version does not work with color space. The older version works with mate pairs and color space, but not paired end and color space.

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                    • AmitL
                      Member
                      • Aug 2011
                      • 36

                      #11
                      How do you know it's meant for mate-pairs?

                      On the documentation it says:
                      Generate alignments in the SAM format given paired-end reads.

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                      • nilshomer
                        Nils Homer
                        • Nov 2008
                        • 1283

                        #12
                        Originally posted by AmitL View Post
                        How do you know it's meant for mate-pairs?

                        On the documentation it says:
                        Check out the source code "bwape.c" and search for SOLID. It uses the F3/R3 "pairing", which is mate pair.

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                        • AmitL
                          Member
                          • Aug 2011
                          • 36

                          #13
                          Alright. Thanks a lot!

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                          • yksikaksi
                            Member
                            • Dec 2009
                            • 20

                            #14
                            Have you consider to map your csfasta reads with SHRiMP2?

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                            • AmitL
                              Member
                              • Aug 2011
                              • 36

                              #15
                              Yes.
                              Shrimp2 collapses because of non-existing input problems. I have checked the input manually and it was ok. It works with all other tools.

                              I preferred not to deal with such a buggy tool.

                              But thanks!

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