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  • khannak85
    Junior Member
    • Jan 2012
    • 8

    #1

    ChIP-Seq Library Perp

    Hi,

    I have been trying to make a ChIP-Seq library using TruSeq Adapters. Even though the DNA profile looks good on the bioanalyzer, I'm not able to get any product after library enrichment.
    I've tried other samples, which were low in DNA amount and were not the cleanest, but they still gave me a good amount of library.

    Any thoughts what could be the problem? My guess was something is inhibiting the adapter ligation so I cleaned the sample with 1.8X AMPure. But still the same results.
  • ETHANol
    Senior Member
    • Feb 2010
    • 308

    #2
    Your going to have to give a much much more detailed explanation of what you are doing for anyone to be able to help you. So if you want an answer, spend some time and explain in detail what you are doing, including your exact protocol.

    That being said, this is what I do and it works really well.
    A few more updates to the protocol.  This version is working really well.  I have increased the PEG concentration used with the AMPure beads to increase the recovery of the smallest DNA fragments. …
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    Ethan

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    • khannak85
      Junior Member
      • Jan 2012
      • 8

      #3
      Well, I'm trying to make a ChIP-Seq Library from 25ng of DNA sheared down to a median size range of 200 bp using covaris. Library construction is performed on Beckman Coulter SPRIworks station using their System I reagent kit (for Illumina) and Bioo Scientific adapters with a 200-400bp size selection.

      The final product is amplified using KAPA HiFi and 15 cycles of PCR enrichment. Amplified library was cleaned up using 0.9X AMPure and analyzed on Bioanalyzer High Senstivity Chip.

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      • ETHANol
        Senior Member
        • Feb 2010
        • 308

        #4
        Can you post an image of your sheared input DNA.
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        • khannak85
          Junior Member
          • Jan 2012
          • 8

          #5
          I do not have an image for Post-Shear, since the DNA was too diluted to be analyzed on a bioanalyzer. But I have attached the DNA profile pre-sonnication and the final library profile.

          Thanks for the help.
          Attached Files

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          • DMO
            Member
            • Aug 2010
            • 28

            #6
            I would recommend prepping manually as the SPRI-TE loses a LOT of DNA in its prep. I would only recommend using the SPRI-TE with 100ng+ of starting material. I regularly prep with 10ng (sometimes less) manually with no issues. I do not use the Illumina kits, but I do know others who do so with success.

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            • khannak85
              Junior Member
              • Jan 2012
              • 8

              #7
              I have successfully used SPRI-TE with as little as 10 ng of DNA for making ChIP-Seq libraries. As a matter of fact, this project has 12 samples with the lowest amount being 9 ng. All samples worked fine except the 4 ChIP input samples which are the cleanest.

              I did think about the option of making them manually, but without a possible reason for these faliures, I feel manually library prep is going to yield the same results

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              • DMO
                Member
                • Aug 2010
                • 28

                #8
                Did you do manual integration of your bioanalyzer run to see how much of your 25ng is in the 200-400bp range?

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                • ETHANol
                  Senior Member
                  • Feb 2010
                  • 308

                  #9
                  Originally posted by khannak85 View Post
                  I do not have an image for Post-Shear, since the DNA was too diluted to be analyzed on a bioanalyzer. But I have attached the DNA profile pre-sonnication and the final library profile.
                  Now I am really confused. Why do you have small DNA fragments prior to shearing?
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                  • khannak85
                    Junior Member
                    • Jan 2012
                    • 8

                    #10
                    Originally posted by ETHANol View Post
                    Now I am really confused. Why do you have small DNA fragments prior to shearing?
                    Well, it is a ChIP-Seq project. So as a part of the ChIP protcol, DNA is sheared. But it is usually not exactly the size we want to go for library construction. Therefore, we sonicate it again to bring it down to a median size of 200bp.

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                    • DMO
                      Member
                      • Aug 2010
                      • 28

                      #11
                      But how much of your material was in the size range that is getting selected? Thats why I was asking about whether you manually integrated your traces at any point.

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                      • khannak85
                        Junior Member
                        • Jan 2012
                        • 8

                        #12
                        I've got an update on this issue.

                        On my first post I mentioned that I cleaned up the DNA using 1.8X AMpure but still no luck. So I tired cleaning it up with Qiagen PCR Purification kit and then made library. It was successful.
                        Although I am glad that Qiagen column worked, but it posed a new question in my head. Why did Qiagen column worked better than 1.8X AMPure? I know both have a lower size cut off of around 100bp and both should technically get rid off all the salt and contaminants

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                        • khannak85
                          Junior Member
                          • Jan 2012
                          • 8

                          #13
                          Originally posted by DMO View Post
                          But how much of your material was in the size range that is getting selected? Thats why I was asking about whether you manually integrated your traces at any point.
                          If the shearing was ok. I would expect atleast 80% of the DNA to be in that size range. Since I only sheared 25ng of DNA. The concentration was too low to be analyzed on the bioanalyzer chip

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                          • AndersHaakon
                            Junior Member
                            • Dec 2010
                            • 3

                            #14
                            Originally posted by khannak85 View Post
                            Well, it is a ChIP-Seq project. So as a part of the ChIP protcol, DNA is sheared. But it is usually not exactly the size we want to go for library construction. Therefore, we sonicate it again to bring it down to a median size of 200bp.
                            Sorry, but wouldn't shearing of DNA post IP in a ChIP-Seq experiment yield wide and unfocused peaks? I mean, you would end up sequencing fragments not directly binding your factor.

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                            • khannak85
                              Junior Member
                              • Jan 2012
                              • 8

                              #15
                              Originally posted by AndersHaakon View Post
                              Sorry, but wouldn't shearing of DNA post IP in a ChIP-Seq experiment yield wide and unfocused peaks? I mean, you would end up sequencing fragments not directly binding your factor.
                              After IP, you should only pull-down specific DNA. Once you have that, for NextGen sequencing, we shear it further to obtain a median size range of 200bp and then add adapters. So now all your target DNA is within the size selection range and there would be minimum loss due to size selection.

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